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Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by encom »

progval wrote: post #33
encom wrote: post #5

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Yea, imagine what kind of Napster we could build today, with ~20 years advancement in bandwidth and storage. This looks super interesting. EDIT: Never mind. It's another "pipe curl into bash" type of app, since nobody knows how to package software any more.

> It's another "pipe curl into bash" type of app, since nobody knows how to package software any more. According to https://docs.funkwhale.audio/installation/ , the curl|bash is only one of the ways to install it. They also provide an ansible role, install instructions on Debian and Arch without the curl|bash, an AUR package, a NixOS package, a Yunohost package, and a Docker image

They don't provide, those are all third party packages.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by glenstein »

disruptalot wrote: post #50
glenstein wrote: post #35

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To include some important information you left out: It says that sexual harassment is bad and that racism is bad, and using jokes to "ironically" do things like that is also bad.

Problem is, making accusation of such is a breeze. > Intentionally posting or disseminating libel, slander, or other disinformation. Let's face it. It's just a policy that allows them to expel anyone that doesn't fit their views, whatever that may be.

>that doesn't fit their views, whatever that may be.

Their "view" is that sexual harassment is not something they want on their platform.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by glenstein »

encom wrote: post #52
progval wrote: post #45

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There is a middle ground between "sending people to camps for a wrong joke" and "no one should be held accountable for any of their actions if they claim they are jokes"

A joke is not an action. It can never bring harm to another person.

Here's an NIH paper going over the harms this brings to other people:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4659767/

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by [deleted] »

pjc50 wrote: post #51
cousin_it wrote: post #39

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(deleted, I was overreacting a bit)

Americans come from a country where, in living memory, having a different colour skin removed whole areas of your legal rights. Interracial marriage was banned in several states until roughly the time of the moon landings. This is why Americans are rather touchy about people making light of racism.

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Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by feanaro »

BRedSox wrote: post #27
feanaro wrote: post #22

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This depends on both the music in question and your jurisdiction. There is nothing inherent about "music" that makes it illegal to share it with others. Is it Taylor Swift or something your friend recorded? It makes a big difference. This is a tool to satisfy the use case of sharing music with others. Sometimes such sharing will be illegal, but at other times it won't.

Couldn’t the same be said for youtube-dl? Again, I don’t know.. just curious.

Exactly, youtube-dl is a legal tool. You have to expect that everyone is trying to game the law and push the scales in their favour.

In that case, it is in RIAA's best interest that everything is locked down and they maintain exclusive control over as many things as possible. It is also in their favour to make the public view anything related to sharing of media files as suspect. That doesn't mean this position is reasonable and valid.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by JacobSuperslav »

birracerveza wrote: post #53
JacobSuperslav wrote: post #9

I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

You like an ANTI -meritocracy statement? We truly have gone backwards.

it's not like what their doing is rocket science

And, yes, I believe the world would be a better place if we followed these rules with many projects regardless of the field.

Btw, there are some interesting facts about the history of the word, "meritocracy": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_of_the_Meritocracy#....

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by feanaro »

BRedSox wrote: post #49
fabrixxm wrote: post #46

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It's the same. It's not "who is?", it's "have you a license to do it?". If you have a license to reshare spice girls works, and you want to use funkwhale, well, you can. Nine Inch Nails have CC licensed albums. So "being famous" and "music that is under a CC license" is not mutually exclusive...

I don’t think there is anyone on HN confused on that. I’m sorry if it slipped beyond you but I’m specifically talking music people don’t have permission or the rights to sharing.

The problem was with how you phrased your original comment. You implied that it (the tool?) is not legal because it offers "the ability to share your music online". This is why people started replying in this sense.
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