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Show HN: Etebase – An open source and end-to-end encrypted Firebase alternative

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Re: Show HN: Etebase – An open source and end-to-end encrypted Firebase alternative

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Post by jmnicolas »

nbclark wrote: post #10
rathboma wrote: post #5

I make Beekeeper Studio ( https://beekeeperstudio.io ). This looks really interesting, especially as it is open source. Do you have many FOSS users self-deploying it?

Off topic, but just checked out Beekeeper - Seems like a solid SQL IDE! Had been using Postico before, but going to give yours a try.

Same here, I'm fed up from the clunkyness of DBeaver so I'm even ready to consider using an electron app!

And since you don't have analytics, please know that there's at least one person that will use the light theme, please keep it ;)

Re: Show HN: Etebase – An open source and end-to-end encrypted Firebase alternative

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Post by vekker »

Very interesting, I've been on the lookout for something like this for a long time and it still surprises me how few out-of-the-box, open source, E2E encryption solutions there are available (especially for us Europeans...).

One thing that's not clear to me from first glance at the docs: does this support offline-first apps? So what about sync with local storage, search, CRUD of collections/items offline, conflict resolution, ...? Am I missing something, or is this something that the developer has to implement themselves?

Re: Show HN: Etebase – An open source and end-to-end encrypted Firebase alternative

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Post by tasn »

vekker wrote: post #63

Very interesting, I've been on the lookout for something like this for a long time and it still surprises me how few out-of-the-box, open source, E2E encryption solutions there are available (especially for us Europeans...). One thing that's not clear to me from first glance at the docs: does this support offline-first apps? So what about sync with local storage, search, CRUD of collections/items offline, conflict re…

Thanks for your questions! What we have now is the first step of our vision. It supports offline-first apps in the sense that you can work offline and sync later. If you are talking about not using a server at all: that's coming too.

All the rest of the things you mention: they are all in the works. What we have now is already enough to build great apps (as done with EteSync for example), though we want to build the entire ecosystem around it.

Re: Show HN: Etebase – An open source and end-to-end encrypted Firebase alternative

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Post by tasn »

jmnicolas wrote: post #62

Hi, fwiw I noticed a small typo on https://docs.etebase.com/ you wrote challAnges instead of challEnges. May I ask how do you make money? Just by hosting the service? Is it production ready?

Oops, fixed. Thanks!

Make money: hosting the service, yeah. Though also from our user facing apps.

Production ready: yeah. We use it for EteSync (our user facing apps), and through that it's been integrated to GNOME, KDE, Tasks.org and more.

Re: Show HN: Etebase – An open source and end-to-end encrypted Firebase alternative

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Post by tasn »

habosa wrote: post #65

Firebaser here! Just want to say this is (in my personal opinion) pretty cool and even though it's the "competition" you're doing something unique and we'll take the comparison as a compliment.

Haha, thanks! I don't think we are really direct competitors, we are targeting a different niche. It's just that you are the best example of a backend-as-a-service and thus the best way to explain what we do. :)

Re: Show HN: Etebase – An open source and end-to-end encrypted Firebase alternative

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Post by aitchnyu »

tasn wrote: post #33
aitchnyu wrote: post #32

Tangential, but is Etesync and Notes a cheap, unbloated and foolproof app combo compared to paid competitors? And would the existing protocol support a (team) password manager? I would buy that trio if its a healthy business at $2 per month and avoided lock-in. And in future enabled "SaaS" products which is a static site + a safe backend.

EteSync and EteSync Notes: I'd say yes. To be honest, it's way too cheap for what it is. :) Yes, the protocol can support that, though it's not yet implemented. Not sure what you meant with the rest of your comment.

I'm wary of SaaS that earns a ton of cash and then implodes under their expenses. I'll be happy to get an Etesync account and use apps built for it. Like how draw.io is a mostly static site using Dropbox, GDrive etc as portable backends.

Re: Show HN: Etebase – An open source and end-to-end encrypted Firebase alternative

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Post by tasn »

aitchnyu wrote: post #68
tasn wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EteSync and EteSync Notes: I'd say yes. To be honest, it's way too cheap for what it is. :) Yes, the protocol can support that, though it's not yet implemented. Not sure what you meant with the rest of your comment.

I'm wary of SaaS that earns a ton of cash and then implodes under their expenses. I'll be happy to get an Etesync account and use apps built for it. Like how draw.io is a mostly static site using Dropbox, GDrive etc as portable backends.

We are not going to implode under our expenses. We keep our expenses in check (and have been for the last four years), and we put a big emphasis on the sustainability of the service.

Re: Show HN: Etebase – An open source and end-to-end encrypted Firebase alternative

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Post by jmnicolas »

After reading the docs I have a couple more questions:

- there's the notion of a local cache but is it synced / de-duped automatically or is it something I still have to do?

Let's say I have a ToDo mobile app. While online I enter the task "buy milk". Sometimes later I'm in airplane mode and I modify the task as "buy condensed milk". Do your library updates the changes automagically once online?

- how realistic is it to run your own server? Is it a couple hours of config and forget about it or it's a multi-days endeavor without certainty of success?

- in your examples you use the name Cyberdyne. If I use Etebase do I unknowingly contribute to Skynet? ;)

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