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Re: Start with pen and paper

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Evernote at one point a few years ago had a pen and paper thing with a grid on it they could recognize. You took pictures of it. I think it was made by moleskine. Has this been updated? This was to my recollection about 5 years ago when I first saw someone using this technique of hybrid analog/digital capture.

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I wrote an app which I use for exactly the same purpose and it's served me quite well so far. I've been writing almost every day for a year. I keep it on a separate screen and jot down my thoughts if I feel that I lack focus (more info here https://sonnet.io/posts/ulysses ). Feel free to check it out, it might help you too: https://ulysses.sonnet.io Another tool that I find helpful: iPad Pro + Concepts for doodling/a…

This is very cool, thank you!!

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I used to worry that pen/paper wasn't the perfect note taking system because it lacks the searchability of digital notes - but over time I have realized that the primary purpose of notes for me isn't long term but short term. Writing something down, like the author states, helps me focus and accomplish the task at hand, and the more I worry about the long term value of the notes the less I take notes because I am wor…

I use loose-leaf paper and throw it away as soon as I'm done with whatever feature I was planning.

The ephemeral nature makes me work more quickly, I find.

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The article does not explain what the value of pen and paper has over a digital note pad. It just declares it has one. However, I can sympathize. I teach drawing and design. Of course, most of my students were raised on digital media. For some, their first experience drawing was digital! I have a lot of trouble explaining to them the value of pencil and paper. In “Personal Dynamic Media.” (1977) Kay, Alan and Goldber…

> The article does not explain what the value of pen and paper has over a digital note pad. It just declares it has one.

From the article, at the very beginning: "Nothing will provide focus like pen and paper."

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For me it depends on context and need, but even if one hectic day I decide to use Jake Knapp's paper burner list instead of org-mode, at the end of the day everything still gets put into my electronic system. I still haven't found a paper system that can offer search and tagging as good as something like Emacs, OmniFocus, Evernote, etc

Definitely agree -- paper is something that should compliment your overall system, it's pretty hard to get by with paper alone these days.

If my goal is to focus in on what I'm thinking about, pulling myself away from the computer and putting pen to paper does a better job than anything digital has been able to provide me.

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The article does not explain what the value of pen and paper has over a digital note pad. It just declares it has one. However, I can sympathize. I teach drawing and design. Of course, most of my students were raised on digital media. For some, their first experience drawing was digital! I have a lot of trouble explaining to them the value of pencil and paper. In “Personal Dynamic Media.” (1977) Kay, Alan and Goldber…

I personally prefer pen and paper when I need to summarize projects to main steps/ideas. Nothing like the fixed/finite space that you need to work with to make you more efficient.

I have a digital notepad from work. I don't see it the same. I can write novels on the damn thing and would still have room to spare.

Maybe it's just personal preference or just being weird but I'd rather have half of A4 to work with just to organize my thoughts properly.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Free from distractions I agree. Digital device with connectivity to the Internet is full of distractions. If you mean a digital notepad with no Internet access, then yes, that can be a solution too.

> If you mean a digital notepad with no Internet access, then yes, that can be a solution too. Nothing beats the feeling of a real pen and paper for me. The texture of the paper and the feedback of the pen changes the experience a lot for me. Even if I've grown with computers and wanted my profession since forever, nothing beats paper (incl. e-paper/e-ink) when it comes to writing. Working with an analog medium compl…

Did you look into Remarkable e-paper tablet? [0] Many people swear by it because it supposedly has the feeling of paper when writing (the screen has a matte/rough texture). I've ordered one myself, haven't received yet so I can't vouch for whether those opinions are true or not, though.

[0] http://remarkable.com

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i am jumping back to pen and paper or more of direct hand interfaces . I also recently bought graphic tablet for storing handwritten notes.From what i think computer can help you store ideas vertically,with excel you can have vertically as well but still the interface is the keyboard and not whole hands. vague thoughts!!

Most of my thoughts are vague, no judgement ;)

You're touching on a reason I like paper too -- in a digital format, I end up thinking too much about how I'm going to organize the information as opposed to just getting my thoughts down.

Organizing the information is important too, but worrying about it before your thoughts are clarified is a quick way for me to get pulled away from my focus on the problem.

Each tool has it's place!

Re: Start with pen and paper

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post #14

The article does not explain what the value of pen and paper has over a digital note pad. It just declares it has one. However, I can sympathize. I teach drawing and design. Of course, most of my students were raised on digital media. For some, their first experience drawing was digital! I have a lot of trouble explaining to them the value of pencil and paper. In “Personal Dynamic Media.” (1977) Kay, Alan and Goldber…

I personally prefer pen and paper when I need to summarize projects to main steps/ideas. Nothing like the fixed/finite space that you need to work with to make you more efficient. I have a digital notepad from work. I don't see it the same. I can write novels on the damn thing and would still have room to spare. Maybe it's just personal preference or just being weird but I'd rather have half of A4 to work with just t…

I'm with you here -- constraints like that can definitely be useful! The constraint of slowing down to write by hand is also useful for me in this context.

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I got the reMarkable 2 also, and I love it. There is one aspect of paper it does not really replicate well, though, and that is the ability to spread half a dozen sheets of paper in front of you for quick reference while you're working on your notes. Swiping between pages is too disruptive, not to mention jumping back and forth between notebooks.

How is the latency between interacting with pen/screen. I'm so tempted by these devices but that is my main concern, does it truly feel like pen on paper?

The latency has been much improved between rM1 and rM2, apparently. I have only the latter, and I can say the latency is not at all noticeable. My only complaint is with the accuracy of the digitiser: My strokes tend to end up a fraction of a millimeter higher up on the page than where I intend them to go. This is very rarely a problem for me, but can be a source of irritation when I make minor corrections. I have no idea if this is universal or specific to my device, but I intend to find out.
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