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I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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>But it did make me think about just how easy it is to farm karma on Reddit, and how useless it is as a proxy for "trust" or "reputation" or anything other than what it is - fake internet points. I have to say, do people really take karma, upvotes, credit, fake internet points etc. As a measure of trustworthiness? I know reddit pushes this idea but do people actually participating in communities with point systems se…

"Trust" in this context means that you can be more certain that there is a real person with a certain level of time investment and legitimate intent behind the account. Compare that to an new account whose only purpose is to post an ad before getting banned. Karma thresholds are highly effective spam filters.

Not necessarily. There's a site I use with a star based karma system. A bunch of years ago there was a glitch in the site that led to a bunch of random members getting ridiculous amounts of stars.

People still ask questions about it to this day as to why there's random members with this.

Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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HN bestows various abilities once you pass certain karma thresholds. It's the only site I know of that does this and I think it really helps keep a better community. It's a direct counterexample to the other comments saying karma is meaningless and isn't or shouldn't be used as a proxy for trust. It might be misplaced trust in some cases, but it is trust nonetheless.

The highest threshold for unlocking features HN is at 501 karma (comment downvoting), which is not a lot and is mostly there to limit abuse. More importantly, it doesn't affect the submission ranking algorithm at all.

I hear that if you reach rank 50 or above on the HN leaderboard you gain the ability to have your posts appear with in rainbow colours but those who have it are too wise to use this power.

More seriously these posts got me interested in what features besides downvoting would be added at various karma levels which led me to your git page on the topic. Linked here for others interested:

https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented

Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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One of the bots in /r/SubredditSimulator was the "top today" bot, which would just take the top 500 posts from /r/all in the last 24 hours, pick one of the links at random, and repost it with a gibberish title made from a markov chain of those 500 posts' titles. With such a small set of input, the titles almost never made any sense at all.

I had to shut that bot down, because eventually just reposting a random popular meme/image from the last 24 hours with a nonsensical title started becoming far too successful and it ended up getting 2,648,254 post karma, while often getting its own posts near the top of /r/all: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimMeta/comments/c5besk/th...

Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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A couple of years back, it was announced that the trailer for one of the new Star Wars movies would debut during halftime of Monday Night Football. There's always a rush to post stuff like links to new movie trailers "first" on Reddit, so as to get the most fake internet points. I guessed that the trailer would probably get added to the Star Wars YouTube page at around the same time it aired on TV, so I wrote a scrip…

>But it did make me think about just how easy it is to farm karma on Reddit, and how useless it is as a proxy for "trust" or "reputation" or anything other than what it is - fake internet points. I have to say, do people really take karma, upvotes, credit, fake internet points etc. As a measure of trustworthiness? I know reddit pushes this idea but do people actually participating in communities with point systems se…

most mod positions are offered first to contributing members of a community, so with fake points might eventually come real fake power. see for example the gallowboop story, he farmed points literally stealing other people content, and went to be a mod on a lot of subreddits

Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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This is a reminder that account karma on Reddit and Hacker News doesn't really mean anything and doesn't make your posts more valuable, or give it any additional benefit in the algorithms. (I say that as someone with 153k Reddit karma and a user ranked #57 on the HN leaderboards: https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders ) Going truly viral on Reddit/HN is still ultimately random as well, which is why reposting (within re…

> ...doesn't really mean anything and doesn't make your posts more valuable.. True for posts, and true for comments if they get upvotes. Downvotes however make comments less valuable. I imagine some people see the gray/faded comments and just presume low value content, which may not be the case.

I think he meant that your karma on your account won't affect your posts. (And I agree.. you can even see the karma of the poster without clicking into his username.)

The points you got for a particular post of course matters, since it affects the visibility.

Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

#69
So basically you used unethical trickery to cheat yourself 10k meaningless internet points?

You also shoehorned AI into the story so you could generate some meaningless internet points with the impressionable youth on Hacker News, too?

How about you do something meaningful and ethical with AI instead. Then you might even earn an upvote from me.

Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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A couple of years back, it was announced that the trailer for one of the new Star Wars movies would debut during halftime of Monday Night Football. There's always a rush to post stuff like links to new movie trailers "first" on Reddit, so as to get the most fake internet points. I guessed that the trailer would probably get added to the Star Wars YouTube page at around the same time it aired on TV, so I wrote a scrip…

Yep. Early on during the famous Rob Ford drug controversy (in Toronto), I realized that any time an article on him would drop with new details on his shady dealings, this would easily gather thousands of upvotes on reddit as the most controversial thing of the day. Soon enough, I started just posting on reddit every time a new news drop would come. Journalists typically share their own articles on twitter as soon as they are online so it wasn't hard to be the first.

Ended up with thousands of points in karma for something as easy as copy pasting the URL on reddit as soon as it was available. Never cared about posting articles on reddit before or after those events, but I figured this was an easy way to make my score way high and keep it that way for the next few years.

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