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Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#61
Interesting that this post made it to #1. It seems like Google marketing trick.

Anyone who uses the blue realizes that it's far lacking in quality from other offerings and Google Meet UI is very bad also.

Zoom, Teams, even WebEx are superior quality and usability wise.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#62

Aside: Imagine you’re driving down the road and you need to make a right turn. Well, for some reason the steering wheel is stowed away and disappeared! You need to hover your hand around the center console in a specific area to be able to expose it. Out comes the steering wheel and now you can make a right turn. Google UX/UI team: Please fucking make the mute/unmute button visible at all times.

Not what you asked for, but you can mute/unmute quickly with the keyboard shortcut: ⌘/Ctrl + d

The blessed workaround as we say in software engineering, which allows us to move the real issue waay down the backlog indefinitely. :)

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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post #15

Sony released some software a couple of months ago that lets you use most of their DSLRs as webcams with USB. My goodness, paired with a fast lens, what a difference to my MacBook webcam, even with these ml blurred backgrounds! It's only 720p and around 15fps but real shallow dof, very little sensor noise, autofocus works. Well worth trying if you have a Sony camera from the last few years. Sensor size and good optic…

I recently tried to get a setup similar to this with a Fujifilm X-T20 I had lying around, remembering that Fujifilm announced similar software. Alas, that software only works with their higher end models.

I ended up getting a $10 HDMI USB capture stick from Aliexpress. I get a perfect 1080p/60fps signal, and at least on Linux it worked out of the box with Zoom.

The only problem now is that most of my meetings start with "wow, why do you look like you're on TV?"

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#65

Aside: Imagine you’re driving down the road and you need to make a right turn. Well, for some reason the steering wheel is stowed away and disappeared! You need to hover your hand around the center console in a specific area to be able to expose it. Out comes the steering wheel and now you can make a right turn. Google UX/UI team: Please fucking make the mute/unmute button visible at all times.

More important than the button is the status indicator - I need to know if the call is muted or not. Even better, promote it to an OS-level icon/badge/overlay. If my mic is actively in use, please make it blindingly obvious.

It's a toggle switch. The action and its current status is combined.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#66

Aside: Imagine you’re driving down the road and you need to make a right turn. Well, for some reason the steering wheel is stowed away and disappeared! You need to hover your hand around the center console in a specific area to be able to expose it. Out comes the steering wheel and now you can make a right turn. Google UX/UI team: Please fucking make the mute/unmute button visible at all times.

Isn't this sort of a Fizz Buzz for a UX/UI design professional? I don't mean to demean anyone, but I see this sort of a thing literally everywhere. Hiding important and absolutely crucial information (that can make or break your product) in the name of minimalism. Coming out of a company that has one of the highest hiring bars for software engineering, and yet, their products have such an awful UX/UI. This isn't an e…

I worked as a freelance graphic artist/web designer once and while I wasn't bad at the job, I really hated one aspect of it: Everybody and their kid thought they knew better than I did. When I said: "Yeah but this should really be visible, because accessibility", they would say: " But it looks better if..."

People in high paid position certainly want "has taste" and "knows what looks good" to be part of their self image. Many fails in design and architecture happen for that reason alone.

I then ended up programming and working in film sound, because very few people in both fields tell you what to do when they have no idea what's going on.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They seem to be lamenting that they now notice skin color (due to all the racial essentialism of the last N years) where they used to not notice.

I understand the feeling somewhat: it is very noticeable how TV shows for example now have expanded the default cast from "all white people + token black, maybe a gay individual" to "all white people + token black woman + token asian + token non-binary, maybe a transgender individual". It feels forced and ham-fisted, but I don't see how this could be made in a better way. Possibly people growing up with this will not…

Unfortunately I'm Gen Z, not an old fart :/.

No clue how most Gen Z people feel about this type of thing though.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#68
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't this sort of a Fizz Buzz for a UX/UI design professional? I don't mean to demean anyone, but I see this sort of a thing literally everywhere. Hiding important and absolutely crucial information (that can make or break your product) in the name of minimalism. Coming out of a company that has one of the highest hiring bars for software engineering, and yet, their products have such an awful UX/UI. This isn't an e…

I worked as a freelance graphic artist/web designer once and while I wasn't bad at the job, I really hated one aspect of it: Everybody and their kid thought they knew better than I did. When I said: "Yeah but this should really be visible, because accessibility", they would say: " But it looks better if..." People in high paid position certainly want "has taste" and "knows what looks good" to be part of their self im…

What do you do as a programmer in film sound? How did you get into that? Sounds very niche/interesting

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#69

Aside: Imagine you’re driving down the road and you need to make a right turn. Well, for some reason the steering wheel is stowed away and disappeared! You need to hover your hand around the center console in a specific area to be able to expose it. Out comes the steering wheel and now you can make a right turn. Google UX/UI team: Please fucking make the mute/unmute button visible at all times.

Not what you asked for, but you can mute/unmute quickly with the keyboard shortcut: ⌘/Ctrl + d

Ah, yes, of course. D as in mute.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#70

Aside: Imagine you’re driving down the road and you need to make a right turn. Well, for some reason the steering wheel is stowed away and disappeared! You need to hover your hand around the center console in a specific area to be able to expose it. Out comes the steering wheel and now you can make a right turn. Google UX/UI team: Please fucking make the mute/unmute button visible at all times.

I have similar problems with Zoom.

The mute/unmute changes position and can be hidden in a top bar that slides out. In some fullscreen situations there is no button to get out of fullscreen. Sometimes double-click works, sometimes it doesn't. Recently I could not even alt-tab away, basically my computer got 'locked' by zoom.

https://tacosteemers.com/articles/2020-10-16-ux-anti-pattern...

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