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Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by skywhopper »

doomlaser wrote: post #2

> GitLab is not the only actor in this discrimination against Persian/Iranian people, we also blocked by GitHub, Docker, NPM, Google Developer, Android, AWS, Go, Kubernetes and etc. US sanctions compliance most likely Edit: confirmed by Gitlab: https://twitter.com/gitlab/status/1312183287402512384

I work at a SaaS company based in the US, and we’ve actively blocked a half-dozen or so countries for years, including Iran, because of sanctions. I’m honestly surprised GitLab wasn’t already doing so.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by diebeforei485 »

dessant wrote: post #34
skrebbel wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, nitpick, nobody's blocking Persians. I'm not Persian but if I go to Iran I bet I'm blocked too. I'm strongly opposed to these sanctions, and I also think GitLab should've given people notice so they could get their data out. But I'm not sure it's a good place to pull the racism card.

Some companies will block you despite having no legal obligation, because it's more convenient, than to apply the law in a sensible manner. GitLab is apparently such a company. > 118. I have a client that is in Iran to visit a relative. Do I need to restrict the account? > No. As long as you are satisfied that the client is not ordinarily resident in Iran, then the account does not need to be restricted. https://home…

This refers to bank accounts. A restricted account would mean the account can be closed and cashed out, but not used in other ways.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by toomuchtodo »

dsabanin wrote: post #55
ahelwer wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only thing Iran is guilty of is insufficient deference to US hegemony. Any other charge you levy can have its equal found in our so-called allies in the region, or even the US itself.

Well, I think the sanctions exists because of the nuclear program. NATO is not going to trade and help technologically a country that's trying to develop nuclear weapons in order to threaten to NATO and their main officially stated enemy – United States. Why would you buy oil from a country or give access to your tech to them when they are using these resources to ramp up their military against you?

> Why would you buy oil from a country or give access to your tech to them when they are using these resources to ramp up their military against you?

Does the US sanction China like it does Iran? The only difference is that China is a larger market than Iran and is close to power parity with the US.

These sanctions are ineffective and disproportionately punish your average Iranian citizen, while we ignore the elephant that is China, which is far more dangerous as an adversary [1] [2].

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Hundred-Year-Marathon-Strategy-Replac...

[2] https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2020/09/04/w...

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by dilatedmind »

Myrmornis wrote: post #51

What steps can maintainers of projects hosted on GitHub/GitLab/etc take to make their projects available to users in countries affected by this US policy? For example, is there an alternative git hosting site where it would be helpful for me to maintain a fork, so that the README is available and people can open issues and PRs? Similarly, where would be a good place to host the binaries built on each release so that…

I could be reading this wrong, but it looks like github allows open source contributions from sanctioned countries.

https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/site-...

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by sleepyhead »

dsabanin wrote: post #45
SuoDuanDao wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let people live their lives?

So, Russia under sanctions, for annexation of Crimea, should just be left alone to leave their lives? Next time, if they decide to annex some other part of Ukraine, or maybe Poland this time, they should also be left to live their lives? Sanctions are not punishments. They are just a way to say – you're an asshole, and neither us nor our allies are going to play with you anymore.

The country that invaded the neighbouring countries of Iran and killed hundred of thousands of people is saying Iran is an asshole and needs to be sanctioned. Got it. Regardless of what you think of the regime in Iran, please do educate yourself and at least try to look at the situation objectively.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by microcolonel »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #23
skrebbel wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, nitpick, nobody's blocking Persians. I'm not Persian but if I go to Iran I bet I'm blocked too. I'm strongly opposed to these sanctions, and I also think GitLab should've given people notice so they could get their data out. But I'm not sure it's a good place to pull the racism card.

I agree it's not racism on GitLab's part, but the U.S. officials behind these sanctions themselves do use phrases like that they want to 'choke Iran's economy', that is in the middle of a pandemic where people's respiratory systems are at risk, it certainly doesn't look good on their part. Also worth noting that GitLab has previously banned hiring from China/Russia, so it's no stranger to blanket bans of questionable…

There is nothing racist about economic sanctions against a country which is in active conflict with our armed forces outside of their borders, which is actively engaged in psy-ops to destabilize American society.

Economic sanctions against America would not be racism against scots/germans/west africans or whatever.

You can argue against sanctions on all sorts of grounds, but the flimsiest is claiming that they're racist.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by miracle2k »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #29
ahelwer wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only thing Iran is guilty of is insufficient deference to US hegemony. Any other charge you levy can have its equal found in our so-called allies in the region, or even the US itself.

One of the things Iran's unambiguously guilty of is these same kinds of access restrictions. If you've ever wondered why Google's sanctions-related controversy was focused on Google Cloud, it's because that was the biggest Google service allowed at the time - search, Gmail, and Youtube had already been banned by the Iranian government. So while I share the skepticism expressed upthread that blocking websites is effec…

A couple things to note here. Youtube is blocked, but Google Search or Gmail or not.

Secondly, this is not a question of they block our services, so we block their services. In both cases, it is Iranians who lose access to services.

If anything, it highlights the hypocrisy of pretending to care about Iranian freedom.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by xtracto »

dsabanin wrote: post #45
SuoDuanDao wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let people live their lives?

So, Russia under sanctions, for annexation of Crimea, should just be left alone to leave their lives? Next time, if they decide to annex some other part of Ukraine, or maybe Poland this time, they should also be left to live their lives? Sanctions are not punishments. They are just a way to say – you're an asshole, and neither us nor our allies are going to play with you anymore.

Aah Pax Americana [1]. It feels so warm and cosy knowing that the benevolent regime has my butt covered.

Look. I love the US (being a Mexican, I consider Mex/US relationship like a bug brother / little brother one) . But darn, it seems the pax-anericana epoch is getting weaker and weaker, and the US is just trying to cling at the last straws of influence that its left.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Americana

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by dsabanin »

sweeneyrod wrote: post #50
dsabanin wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you tell that to citizens of Ukraine and Crimea?

Iran is not Russia.

True, they do however have a very hostile stance towards US and NATO for a good quite a long time now. Them consistently looking to acquire nuclear weapons is not a good sign.

Regardless, I was talking about sanctions in general. Dismissing them as a valid instrument of politics is, in my opinion, misguided.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by ReptileMan »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #23
skrebbel wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, nitpick, nobody's blocking Persians. I'm not Persian but if I go to Iran I bet I'm blocked too. I'm strongly opposed to these sanctions, and I also think GitLab should've given people notice so they could get their data out. But I'm not sure it's a good place to pull the racism card.

I agree it's not racism on GitLab's part, but the U.S. officials behind these sanctions themselves do use phrases like that they want to 'choke Iran's economy', that is in the middle of a pandemic where people's respiratory systems are at risk, it certainly doesn't look good on their part. Also worth noting that GitLab has previously banned hiring from China/Russia, so it's no stranger to blanket bans of questionable…

>I agree it's not racism on GitLab's part, but the U.S. officials behind these sanctions themselves do use phrases like that they want to 'choke Iran's economy', that is in the middle of a pandemic where people's respiratory systems are at risk, it certainly doesn't look good on their part.

Oh come on. That is not scraping the barrel but the bare metal underneath for offense. And most people die of hearth attacks anyway.

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