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Re: Emacs Survey

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Post by BeetleB »

MikeTheGreat wrote: post #53
pmoriarty wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"one is always forced to configure the editor and tweak it here and there to get maybe 80% of what would be possible" What specifically do you think is lacking, apart from having a ready-made IDE out-of-the-box in Emacs?

At one point I was trying to get emacs server to work, so that I wouldn't have to wait a long time for emacs to start (to be fair, part of the problem was that my config file had a pile of stuff in it that I didn't really need). After spending waaay more time on it than I really wanted to I got it working here on MS Windows. Of course, since MS Windows doesn't have emacs daemon processes one needs to keep the emacs w…

> In other words, I spent a ton of time to set up emacs so that when it's already open new files will be opened in that already running instance.

Isn't this just a matter of associating files to the right Emacs executable (emacsclient)?

Re: Emacs Survey

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Post by choeger »

pmoriarty wrote: post #22
choeger wrote: post #9

I entered this at the end: Emacs is a good text editor and I run it for every text file I read or write. As a text editor however, emacs can never handle things like project-management, software development and testing in the same way as an IDE. Yet, it has all the features of an IDE available in some melpa repository. Unfortunately, one is always forced to configure the editor and tweak it here and there to get mayb…

"one is always forced to configure the editor and tweak it here and there to get maybe 80% of what would be possible" What specifically do you think is lacking, apart from having a ready-made IDE out-of-the-box in Emacs?

Integration. If I want to open emacs inside a Cmake c++ project, everything it needs is already there. But I have to configure all the tools myself. Then I switch to a python project and the same stuff has to happen again.

Re: Emacs Survey

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Post by dan-robertson »

m463 wrote: post #13
bluehazed wrote: post #10

For the people wondering "who's asking": https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/je3eht/emacs_user_su... https://blog.abrochard.com/ann-emacs-survey-2020.html

I was wondering that. This appears to be some random person doing this - doesn't appear to be sponsored or approved by rms/gnu/fsf. (especially with non-free javascript)

There was some discussion on the mailing list about it (before rms diverted the thread off on a tangent).

Re: Emacs Survey

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Post by shadowgovt »

barrkel wrote: post #59
m463 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was wondering that. This appears to be some random person doing this - doesn't appear to be sponsored or approved by rms/gnu/fsf. (especially with non-free javascript)

I'm not sure emacs will properly evolve as long as RMS is still involved.

Emacs evolution is really always just a fork away, if someone can build something better than what's there for enough users to care.

Re: Emacs Survey

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Post by dan-robertson »

_cipher_ wrote: post #14

I think this survey was populated without any thought. 1. it does not specify to whom this website belongs to, neither what the purpose of this survey is 2. in programming languages, there's not even one lisp dialect. In a survey. For Emacs. :p [Edit]: correction for 2, as there's clojure. Thanks anamexis.

I think it’s because the took the list from the stack overflow developer survey. Probably they’re hoping to pick up more general emacs users and not emacs package developers

Re: Emacs Survey

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Post by belorn »

mgdev wrote: post #26

> this requires nonfree Javascript So... I get the motivation for including this, and I understand Emacs's roots. But IMO this mindset — the one that motivated including this disclaimer - is also why efforts to "modernize" will pay an extra tax, possibly preventing its success. Emacs has a prioritization rubric that places freedom above mainstream utility. That's perfectly fine, but it inherently limits 1) its audien…

People who do not care about what software is made of, under which user license, where data get stored or who reads it and for what purpose will use something like google docs. The modernized mindset is to put things on a sticky platform, preferable one which hardware keys they control, data mine everything for profit, and not have any way for "customers" to contact the company and object if the customer get kicked out of the platform.

For people who do care there is a spectrum of issues they might care about, including free vs non-free. Surveys like this might even help the developers to identify which of those issues users do care about, and as such, the people behind the survey likely want to make the survey as inclusive to that spectrum as possible.

Re: Emacs Survey

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Post by jeromenerf »

cannam wrote: post #42

I filled this in for fun - it's short enough and impersonal enough that I didn't feel I cared what happens to the data. As an Emacs user for some decades who never really uses any other editor, I found a few questions I didn't understand very well or recognise the answers for. I suppose other users must be more ecosystem-minded than I am. I was intrigued by the (mandatory) question about which theme you use. Does Ema…

It does. I like leuven.

Re: Emacs Survey

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Post by hyperman1 »

shadowgovt wrote: post #65
barrkel wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure emacs will properly evolve as long as RMS is still involved.

Emacs evolution is really always just a fork away, if someone can build something better than what's there for enough users to care.

XEmacs? I liked it bether than the real thing, it still died

Re: Emacs Survey

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Post by ywei3410 »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #21
cjauvin wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I manage all my projects using a constellation of flexible (and hand-picked) tools it offers: magit for versioning, Org for documentation, note taking and time tracking, blacken, isort and prettier wrappers for my code formatting, ivy, counsel and dumb-jump for searching stuff and moving around, and I could go on and on. I understand that Emacs doesn't feel as "modern" as PyCharm or VS Code in a sense, but I don't th…

> and I could go on and on. Please do, I just learned about dumb-jump, any more suggestions of things that worked for you?

Have you tried Lispy [1] and it's derivatives (Lispyville if you're a vim user)? It single-handedly changed how I felt about Lisp editing.

[1] https://github.com/abo-abo/lispy

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