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Re: The curious case of Romanian broadband

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Post by dgudkov » Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 11:33 PM UTC

moltar wrote: post #12

dj_mc_merlin wrote: post #7

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> The wall outlet was an Ethernet port. Huh, never thought of this as weird. I remember using a dial-up modem in the early 2000s in Romania, but since then I've just had a normal Ethernet port coming out of the wall everywhere, including Western Europe.

In North America you get either a TV Cable (coaxial) outlet, which then needs a cable modem (DOCSIS). Or you get a phone outlet, for which you need a DSL modem. For both cases, back in the day, you still needed a router. Nowadays it’s usually a modem-router combo, and usually they are terrible. Everyone always has a rats nest of wires somewhere behind a TV or couch. :D

In Toronto most new condos come with Ethernet ports in walls. Fiber to apartment is not exotic either. The board of the condo I lived in managed to get from Bell a CAD 25/mo (USD 19/mo) offer for 100Mbs internet for all tenants. Usually it's CAD 80/mo (USD 60/mo).

Re: The curious case of Romanian broadband

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Post by SamReidHughes » Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 3:10 AM UTC

zajio1am wrote: post #40

EdwardDiego wrote: post #13

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> We’re conservative because we’re rich and comfortable. Some of you are. You're only surpassed by Romania, Costa Rica, and South Africa in this chart: https://data.oecd.org/inequality/poverty-rate.htm Romania, Italy, South Africa in this one: https://data.oecd.org/inequality/poverty-gap.htm#indicator-c... Doing better in this one, in that now you're behind Bulgaria, Turkey, Chile, Costa Rica and South Africa. https:…

The OECD poverty line is defined as a half of median income, so it is problematic to compare that between countries with much differenent income levels. People on poverty line in rich countries still have higher income (even after PPP adjustment) than median-income people in poor countries.

Yeah, by plain math, making the working class richer will make your poverty rankings worse.

Re: The curious case of Romanian broadband

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Post by mgkimsal » Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 4:13 AM UTC

a2tech wrote: post #48

miahi wrote: post #19

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About pricing in .ro: I have a business link with 1000 down / 200 up and static public IP for $25. A similar speed home link is $9. Adjusted for big mac index (2.5x) they would be around $60 / $22.

I have gigabit up and down in my house in Michigan for $49/month. Fiber, a new ISP. We got lucky in my town because the city owns the phone poles and is very open to leasing space.

nice! "a2" - Ann Arbor, by any chance? I used to live in Ypsi, but those were the days of dual-channel ISDN being 'hot stuff'. :)

Re: The curious case of Romanian broadband

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Post by a2tech » Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 7:36 PM UTC

mgkimsal wrote: post #63

a2tech wrote: post #48

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I have gigabit up and down in my house in Michigan for $49/month. Fiber, a new ISP. We got lucky in my town because the city owns the phone poles and is very open to leasing space.

nice! "a2" - Ann Arbor, by any chance? I used to live in Ypsi, but those were the days of dual-channel ISDN being 'hot stuff'. :)

Actually, we ARE in Ypsilanti. Ann Arbor has worse options then us--they don't own their poles and they're a bigger city. We're small enough and have the poles to make us a better target for small time rollouts. I'm loving the fiber life style though.