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What is expected of a engineering manager?

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Re: What is expected of a engineering manager?

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Why do articles like these make it seem like it was written by a guy targeted by an engineering manager? "Like if I were in his shoe, this is how I would treat myself."

Growth is the greatest result of pain. I would especially listen to someone who learned lessons after having been burned themselves. I would take that over an armchair who was paid to write an article. Authenticity is an extremely valuable human resource.

Re: What is expected of a engineering manager?

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The #1 job of a manager (in all fields) is to keep his people working. It doesn't matter if it is engineering, manufacturing or the local burger joint. A managers #1 job is to keep his people working.

What to do when people dont deliver ? In my current company mgrs say “we did our best”, when in fact I see ppl slacking as hell (days of doing nothing).

I didn't say that it was the only part of the job, just that it was the most important thing. Hopefully you have some knobs you can turn. At my current company if people can't deliver you try to hook them up with more mentors and if they still can't deliver, you stop giving them direct labor to work on and eventual force them out because they don't have any work and they stop getting pay raises (or you fire them usually they push them out).

Re: What is expected of a engineering manager?

#63

I think the article misses what I think is a vitally important part of the job: being a crap shield. A lot of the work of an EM is wading into the slurry pit with a shovel so your team are free to get the job done: bashing your head against InfoSec teams stuck in the '80s so the CI/CD toolchain can deploy to production, negotiating freedom with a CTO who wants to specify everything to the level of individual data str…

The #1 job of a manager (in all fields) is to keep his people working. It doesn't matter if it is engineering, manufacturing or the local burger joint. A managers #1 job is to keep his people working.

Hmm. I think the #1 job of a manager is to hire, motivate and let go of people the right way. It's up to them to keep working, and it's up to the manager to figure out how to do that no more often than required.

If you do it right, it's like 90% teambuilding and 10% line management, IMO. When that ratio is inverted is where you see mediocre management.

Re: What is expected of a engineering manager?

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As someone who's spent a lot of time coaching new EMs, I agree with these bullet points. The thing that makes me sad is that this is only correct if the EM's director agrees with it. The true bullet point of what is expected of an EM: whatever the EM's boss expects.

I'm currently writing down a lot of the management lessons and coaching I usually give new directors as they learn their craft. It's mostly for my own sanity during startup building, since I miss coaching, but thinking of publishing it. There's a lot of EM guidance out there, but it's lacking for directors.

Re: What is expected of a engineering manager?

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post #42

I recommend all of the books referenced in the original post. They are all very good. But the expectation of an engineering manager is fairly simple: Do whatever it takes. Way back in February or March, when we were still working from the office, I walked to the drug store on the corner and got Lysol wipes and hand sanitizer for everyone. Because, do whatever it takes.

What other books would you recommend regarding management of SWEs?

Re: What is expected of a engineering manager?

#66

I think the article misses what I think is a vitally important part of the job: being a crap shield. A lot of the work of an EM is wading into the slurry pit with a shovel so your team are free to get the job done: bashing your head against InfoSec teams stuck in the '80s so the CI/CD toolchain can deploy to production, negotiating freedom with a CTO who wants to specify everything to the level of individual data str…

Totally. I sometimes made the mistake of "venting downwards" or wanting to be more transparent with the team and it wasn't a good experience.

Individual Contributors usually do not want ambiguity or to have a lesser impression of the company or of someone, it isn't good for anyone.

They also lack the context you have and jump to a lot of conclusions that are usually unfair.

It's a hard job!

Re: What is expected of a engineering manager?

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I think the article misses what I think is a vitally important part of the job: being a crap shield. A lot of the work of an EM is wading into the slurry pit with a shovel so your team are free to get the job done: bashing your head against InfoSec teams stuck in the '80s so the CI/CD toolchain can deploy to production, negotiating freedom with a CTO who wants to specify everything to the level of individual data str…

> crap shield

In Office Space, one thing that makes Lumbergh the manager so distasteful is you just know he would never do one thing to help anyone reporting to him.

> configuration galley

I like that. "Ramming speed."

Re: What is expected of a engineering manager?

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post #53

I think the article misses what I think is a vitally important part of the job: being a crap shield. A lot of the work of an EM is wading into the slurry pit with a shovel so your team are free to get the job done: bashing your head against InfoSec teams stuck in the '80s so the CI/CD toolchain can deploy to production, negotiating freedom with a CTO who wants to specify everything to the level of individual data str…

> configuration galley What does this mean?

A galley was a large-ish, primarily oar-powered ship.

However it also refers to the kitchen on certain even larger boats.

So, it's kind of ambiguous what GP meant - either picking a cook out of a galley-kitchen (who is not the best chef, but rather someone making huge amounts of food for a ship's crew), or picking a slave off of the oars in a galley-ship.

I don't know.

Re: What is expected of a engineering manager?

#70
How do you stay current on tech when you're doing mostly crap work and umbrella-ing and project managing, and your people are doing all the juicy innovative stuff?

That's my current struggle. I'm leaning on doing work for myself on the weekend and evenings, which will be brutal.

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