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Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by thaumasiotes »

jnwatson wrote: post #58
thaumasiotes wrote: post #32

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I have an issue which may or may not be a sinus issue: I have phlegm in my throat, constantly. I need to clear my throat (through voluntary coughing) every few minutes. If I don't do that, the phlegm dries in place and I end up with a restricted airway and difficulty breathing. I can't really sing because my voice will catch on the phlegm. If you know of anyone with this symptom, or who is familiar with this symptom,…

Post nasal drip? That doesn't really narrow down the cause though. Could be allergies, deviated septum, viral infection, a whole host of things. If it is post nasal drip, pseudoephedrine/Sudafed would clear it right up, if only for a few hours. I wouldn't recommend being on that long term, but it is probably worth an experiment. You didn't say you saw a pulmonologist. I just read about a guy that discovered he had CF…

I haven't seen a pulmonologist. I have had two separate chest X-rays, but that's as far as examination of the lungs in specific has gone.

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by thaumasiotes »

NNHBdcfm6VKQ wrote: post #56
thaumasiotes wrote: post #40

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I've tried the following things: - Claritin - Flonase - Ranitidine (Zantac) - Omeprazole - A diet based around avoiding things that "might" cause heartburn. This list included literally everything I eat; this project had to be abandoned. But for a while there I was basically only eating chicken soup and milk. - An allergy battery (negative on all tests) - Nasal irrigation - Mucinex

Have you tried the "functional medicine" approach to treating heartburn? The theory is: instead of "too much stomach acid" being the problem, sometimes it's "too little stomach acid". Age, medications, and infections may all lead to reduced stomach acid production, which leads to unwanted fermentation and impaired digestion of carbohydrates in the stomach, which increases the production of gas, which increases intra-…

I'll definitely consider this. It's bothered me for a while that the treatment for the heartburn is acid suppressants, but one of the few things that seems to be helpful is drinking lemonade.

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by nkurz »

dmix wrote: post #11
jfengel wrote: post #6

From (2006). Since then it's had 23 cites, mostly in the context of alternative medicine. The one study that seemed to investigate it[1] dismissed it in passing. The guy publishes a lot in Medical Hypotheses , on a wide range of topics (topical gallium for arthritis, taurine for cardiac arrythmia, magnesium for depression). The email address is at "coldcure.com". Which strikes me as having a whiff of crankery to it,…

This fits the 'novel, unexpected, and unusual' byline that provide the perfect butter for things to go viral. Pseudo-science often has these features sadly (not to assume he's wrong here, even clocks strikes right, etc). Edit: coldcure.com was recently sold off but prior to that it had a long history of hocking naturpath "common cold cure" pills https://web.archive.org/web/20060103011343/http://www.coldcu... From a 1…

I don't want to take away from your fine comment, but although I like the image of a website forcefully spitting out pills, I feel compelled to note pedantically that you probably meant "hawk" rather than "hock": https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hawk (Verb 3) vs https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hock.

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by m463 »

colechristensen wrote: post #19
m463 wrote: post #14

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It does sound plausible, because I believe sleep apnea can get some help by playing the didgeridoo which is along the same lines. Of course plausible edge cases might be the best clickbait, so yeah.

The sleep apnea help comes from strengthening muscles in your throat, it wouldn’t have anything to do with sinuses.

ha, no I meant that it's sort of a direct physical intervention.

for example, I think a lot of the benefits of exercise might be to just jostling your body.

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by [deleted] »

jansan wrote: post #33
crispyporkbites wrote: post #25

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Hacker news is full of pseudo science lately, all sorts of anecdotal medical advice keeps popping up on the front page.

In case you haven't noticed, in medicine there are some conditions for which no one-size-fits all cure exists. I happen to suffer from chronic sinusitis since my youth and am actually trying this right now, even if I only see a slim chance that it will work (tried about 10 doctors in the last 30 years, had operations, nasal showers, cortisone, etc.). Btw, did you know that a digital rectal massage can terminate chron…

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Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by johnmobley »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #37
johnmobley wrote: post #36

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Do you smoke anything? I quit smoking everything because of similar symptoms and it all went away after a month of coughing heavier than when I smoked. Try going “ha!”, “hoah!”, “huh!”. Any help?

No, I don't smoke. And I've been coughing for three years. :/ [edit: Sometimes when I cough there is a tearing sensation. If this happens, I generally interpret it as phlegm being dislodged from a place where my coughing wasn't getting it before. I will generally devote a lot of extra effort to coughing at that point. No effect overall, though. A couple of times I've brought up blood spots after some particularly ded…

Have you been screened for lung cancer?

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Post by aitchnyu »

I tried humming for a few minutes and it cleared some mucus. Running also does that but not rehydrating makes it worse. Hyperventilating by imitating Yoga breathing patterns also do. Allegedly singing clears sinuses. Is there any chance of an easy science-backed breathing activity in future?

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Post by thro1 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #32
scrozart wrote: post #10

This is meat, and I'll be forwarding it to my ENT and allergist. I have chronic sinus issues that so far have yet to respond to much.

I have an issue which may or may not be a sinus issue: I have phlegm in my throat, constantly. I need to clear my throat (through voluntary coughing) every few minutes. If I don't do that, the phlegm dries in place and I end up with a restricted airway and difficulty breathing. I can't really sing because my voice will catch on the phlegm. If you know of anyone with this symptom, or who is familiar with this symptom,…

I'm not a doctor, there is an enzyme, bromelain (from pineapple seeds) which may help.. kind of making the phlegm more fluid.

But then, the phlegm could be a defense (mis)reaction to pollution or irritation by stuff you have accumulated in your sinuses - you may try to wash it (saline) and kill it (all bacteria whatever in layers, deep deep in, since years may be still there - kind of your suspended medical history).

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Post by hinkley »

treeman79 wrote: post #17
hinkley wrote: post #12

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I had the same thought. There’s a particular interview about that where the writer confessed that after trying out the flute he fell into a serious coughing fit. But I thought it was more for Cystic Fibrosis than Obstructive Pulmonary disease (they do have their own breathing exercises and devices to increase breathing muscles and lung capacity though).

A bad coughing fit often means My lungs are clearing. I will feel much better in a bit. Usually after an inhaler. Or I have an embolism. That’s less fun

Any time lung health comes up and I can squeeze it into conversation: Belly Breathing is amazing. I started in college, and I have had two chest colds in my entire adult life (and only one up until a couple years ago).

Diaphragmatic breathing (autocomplete tells me that's the word but it don't look right) assists the cilia in ejecting foreign matter from the lower lungs. When I was a kid I'd feel like I was drowning when the cold hit its apex, even when I was into endurance sports, and I knew I was on the mend when I started clearing my lungs.

(If there's a downside it's that I clear my throat all the fucking time when I have a cold now, but I'll take loud over bacterial pneumonia)

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Post by thaumasiotes »

johnmobley wrote: post #66
thaumasiotes wrote: post #37

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No, I don't smoke. And I've been coughing for three years. :/ [edit: Sometimes when I cough there is a tearing sensation. If this happens, I generally interpret it as phlegm being dislodged from a place where my coughing wasn't getting it before. I will generally devote a lot of extra effort to coughing at that point. No effect overall, though. A couple of times I've brought up blood spots after some particularly ded…

Have you been screened for lung cancer?

I've had two chest X-rays, the second of which was a response to my report that I'd coughed up blood.
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