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The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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Re: The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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Doppelgangers have existed since forever. I don't understand why this is such a big deal now. Here is a random agency where you can book real-life doppelgangers: http://www.lookalikes.info/

>I don't understand why this is such a big deal now

because, as the article points out, the actor in the deepfake isn't going to actually act out what the deefake is later going to produce. So this makes creating nefarious content possible by letting the actor read something harmless and then replacing voice and appearance with say, a scam or whatever else. You could hire an actor to read something random and then use deepfakes to make it look like a kidnapping to extort someone or whatever.

If you hire an actual human for the entire thing you'd have to clue them in, and pretty much every commercial business is probably going to not participate in something criminal. Deepfakes probably could scale one innocent performance up to thousands of potential malicious ones.

You know these scams where old people are being called and told that their grandson had an accident and you need to wire them money? Imagine that with video footage and 100% fidelity.

Re: The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Handwritten codexes have existed for long, why is the printing press such a big deal?

A subversive actor only needs a lookalike of one or two people. And it's not like we can't duplicate a video of a doppelganger. So the analogy is lost on me.

The new tech allows to do the same on a massive scale. Yes Stalin had people working for him who would manually erase from photos the people he didn't like any more. It was possible. Photoshop's content-aware fill and various deep learning inpaining algorithms can do that at scale with a fraction of the effort.

The same way, yes it was possible to hire a lookalike, but a) the deepfake will look more similar to the target person than any lookalike can and b) you don't need to find a needle-in-a-haystack lookalike to generate a fake video of anyone you want.

Or, "the post has been carring messages to people for centuries, why is the Internet such a big deal?"

Re: The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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This page opened not one, not two, not three, but four pop-ups that I needed to close to get to the article. 1. cookie acceptance 2. subscribe to mailing list 3. subscribe to technology review 4. some ad that overtook half of the screen Do they want people actually read this website?

You and I live in totally different worlds and I pity your entire internet browsing experience. I had to open up an incognito browser to see what you were talking about. In my normal browsing experience I only got the thing on the bottom half. And perhaps there is a possibility that I already had managed the cookies in the past.

Yeah, it might be because you already clicked all those 4 pop-ups in the past.

Re: The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But are you going to trust aljazeera's signature on a [potential] deepfake of an American politician as the only source of truth about whether that video is real?

That isn't what signing does. Signing attests to origin not authenticity.

In a technical sense, signing only attests that a specific key pair was used to process the data. How that key pair is associated to its handler is a social function. If the signer claims authenticity, the general population will accept the claim, regardless of whether the claim has technical merit.
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