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Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

reaperducer wrote: post #56
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This deeply saddens me, the pool of people I admire is draining faster than it’s replenished Then you need to stop wading in the shallows of the people you admire and get out in the insane expanse that is the rest of the creative world. In terms of just music alone, there's more talent out there now than there ever was before. Two generations or more of musical education where none really existed before, plus an en…

Then you need to stop wallowing in the shallows of the people you admire and get out in the insane expanse that is the rest of the creative world. Don't be a jerk. A guy is dead. He's mourning the loss. Let him.

I changed the wording slightly. Wasn't trying to be harsh or a jerk.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

brtkdotse wrote: post #15

This deeply saddens me, the pool of people I admire is draining faster than it’s replenished. It also reminds me that Death just dragged another bead on his abacus and before long my bead will be up. Also, while I respect and admire what Eddie has done to further the art of playing electric guitar, I must confess I much more enjoy Eddie The Songwriter rather than Eddie The Guitarist.

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Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by rodolphoarruda »

MrMetlHed wrote: post #3

I saw on Twitter he has a patent for a guitar... "support device" that includes the greatest patent image I've ever seen: https://patents.google.com/patent/US4656917A/en

What strikes me: the one who draw the guitarist could have done it adding a neutral facial expression (e.g. a jazz musician) but, hell no!, the choice was for a shredding-guitar-solo rock expression. Nice.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by lillesvin »

mhh__ wrote: post #23
oxymoran wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s like comparing a turn table used for DJ’ing to a record player used to just listen to records. Completely different application, accessories, and technique.

Perhaps, but modern decks have lots of features that record players don't have like effects and EQ. In this case the patented device is basically played in the same way (or can be) just in a different place. It's intended to be for tapping but that's a common pedal steel technique

> It's intended to be for tapping but that's a common pedal steel technique

I have no idea about how to play pedal steel (but I do play guitar), I thought the string action was way too high on a pedal/lap steel steel to be able to tap on it?

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by [deleted] »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #32
brtkdotse wrote: post #15

This deeply saddens me, the pool of people I admire is draining faster than it’s replenished. It also reminds me that Death just dragged another bead on his abacus and before long my bead will be up. Also, while I respect and admire what Eddie has done to further the art of playing electric guitar, I must confess I much more enjoy Eddie The Songwriter rather than Eddie The Guitarist.

> This deeply saddens me, the pool of people I admire is draining faster than it’s replenished Then you need to stop wading in the shallows of the people you admire and get out in the insane expanse that is the rest of the creative world. In terms of just music alone, there's more talent out there now than there ever was before. Two generations or more of musical education where none really existed before, plus an en…

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Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by Uehreka »

MrMetlHed wrote: post #3

I saw on Twitter he has a patent for a guitar... "support device" that includes the greatest patent image I've ever seen: https://patents.google.com/patent/US4656917A/en

Also a great example of “Patent Hands”: https://5by5.tv/hypercritical/68

(I’d link to the Flickr album with similar patent drawings involving hands, but it appears to be down)

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by munificent »

crmd wrote: post #47
jjulius wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. The patent just takes the guitar and stabilizes it in a horizontal position, instead of a vertical position, allowing you to do something different with the same instrument. Nothing about the guitar itself changes whatsoever, but the orientation provides for the guitar to be used differently. The better analogy would be, say, if you took an SL-1200 (a turntable manufactured for DJ'ing) and it rotated it "…

I’m not a fan of battle style but is it really fundamentally different? Eddie’s patent is more like rotating the deck about the z axis and holding it like a guitar. Which would be pretty cool and ridiculous come to think of it :-)

> I’m not a fan of battle style but is it really fundamentally different?

It gets the tone arm out of the way, which is what makes scratching a lot more feasible.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by anthonygore »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #35
woodpanel wrote: post #27

Never knew until recently, that the amazing guitar solo on Michael Jacksons Beat it was played by him. I can't find any transcripts, but in an interview on the Howard Stern show, van Halen said (if I remember correctly) that the infamous knocking at the beginning of his solo was him knocking on his guitar, like a professional who is giving his workhorse a friendly tap before the race - and that he was amazed Michael…

He wanted no credit for it - he didn't want other Van Halen members to know about it because they agreed to never do side projects. He wanted no payment for it except a case of beer and Michael teaching him to dance "sometime".

I find that weird, his style is so distinct any fan would immediately recognize it

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by ghostpepper »

MrMetlHed wrote: post #3

I saw on Twitter he has a patent for a guitar... "support device" that includes the greatest patent image I've ever seen: https://patents.google.com/patent/US4656917A/en

Does anyone else find it strange that Van is actually a middle name, thus rendering his name as HALEN EDWARD VAN

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by clairity »

Lol_80005 wrote: post #50
clairity wrote: post #39

why should eddie van halen be discussed and memorialized here when kobe bryant’s death was relentlessly flagged and censored from discussion?

Nerds don't like sportball, but programming nerds like abstract creators. Eddie was a mind bending genere pushing creative force. His impact was bigger than sportball. Often other obituaries are noted here. Sportsball not so much, unless it's statistical sportsball. Van Halen is probably a stretch tbh, so I don't want to defend it too much either. This site is still better than twitter.

so no value judgment there, huh? nerds who like sports are just not the right kind, right? certain creativity like plucking strings in various patterns is just inherently better than others? and how was his impact greater? how is one kind of entertainer better than another?

startup founders could learn a lot from kobe, from focus and discipline to creativity and tenacity. he also invested in startups.

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