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Eco disaster at Kamchatka peninsula with mass death of sea animals

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Re: Eco disaster at Kamchatka peninsula with mass death of sea animals

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s legal to dump industrial diesel into rivers in the USA?

Look into the Superfund sites in the US of A. Most of the things done in the 80s are now being cleaned up by the federal government at taxpayer's expense. (It's not uncommon to re-clean the sites that have already been cleaned before, either.) Were any CEOs of any of those companies brought to justice for the environmental pollution they have produced?!

Many of them are out of business.

Others weren't breaking the law. That's actually pretty important: our legal system doesn't allow us to seek justice for criminal behavior which wasn't criminal at the time, and mostly that's a good thing.

That's what Superfund is all about, really. Companies have been fined and sued into bankruptcy for breaking regulations that actually existed, though by no means all of the ones that deserved it.

Re: Eco disaster at Kamchatka peninsula with mass death of sea animals

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There's Kozelsky pesticides landfill in the area. It was started there circa 1980, 35 km to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. There were 108 tons of unusable pesticides. The spill comes from the river Nalycheva, and the landfill is on the river Mutnushka which flows into the Nalycheva river.

Very interesting. It is mentioned here: "Regionally Based Assessment of Persistent Toxic Substances: Central and Northeast Asia Regional Report" United Nations Environment Programme, December 2002 https://iwlearn.net/resolveuid/1946c1f28aed08b804427301ae5e0... Kamchatka Oblast - Pesticide landfill built in 1979-1982 at foot of Kozelsky volcano. 102 t of various pesticides. ... In the Central and North East Asia Regio…

> ecological reasonable management in field of stores of out-of-date pesticides

The "reasonable" rubs me the wrong way. Not "safe", not "holistic", but "reasonable". As in something that doesn't put a noticable dent in some bottom line.

Re: Eco disaster at Kamchatka peninsula with mass death of sea animals

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I 've also noticed that satellite imagery (Google Maps and Google Earth) have been blanked off for large areas of the relevant district of Kamchatka coast.. never seen that before except in and around the vicinity of top secret military bases. I don't buy the Russian authorities insistence that it's an oil spill, I've worked many oil spills and see no sign, in the Kamchatka images i've accessed, of any oil pollution. I had already come to the conclusion that it must be chemical and the info shared on this site has hardened that view, you get a lot of pheonols in "cides" and often various forms/types of hydrocarbons are involved in the "carriers" for cides. Like others on this site, I'd already fixed on the river and followed it's course up into the highlands where I'd deduce, from the mapping of Siberian wildfires, that there's been a lot of wildfire over recent years. This would generate major loss of tree cover, which in turn (in the evnt of heavy rainfall or snow melt) would lead to major erosion and infrastructure damage.. including the destruction of bunded or buried chemical waste repositories and subsequent leaks... would be great to know if any one's doing autopsy on dead marine life or has attempted sampling and analysis on the water.

Re: Eco disaster at Kamchatka peninsula with mass death of sea animals

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet the waterways in the USA have never been cleaner in the last hundred years. There are regulations and they are enforced, imperfectly like everything. I live in Canada where we take the environment more seriously still.

There's very little left in the US as ugly as the Athabaska oil sands. Not a competition, really; we've both got to do better.

There was an exhibition at the Chicago Cultural Center that was just giant satellite photos of the oil sands region. It looked downright apocalyptic.

Re: Eco disaster at Kamchatka peninsula with mass death of sea animals

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post #22

There's Kozelsky pesticides landfill in the area. It was started there circa 1980, 35 km to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. There were 108 tons of unusable pesticides. The spill comes from the river Nalycheva, and the landfill is on the river Mutnushka which flows into the Nalycheva river.

From https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/332810-behind-ecological-disa...:

According to local media, there have already been leaks from buried pesticides. Regional agronomist Anatoly Fedorchenko said in 2006 that “this amount [20 tons of arsenic] is enough to poison the entire northern Pacific Ocean.” Although the landfill was mothballed in 2010, additional checks are now due to be carried out.

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