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Re: Golden raises $14.5M Series A led by a16z and Marc Andreessen joins board

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Post by sethherr »

newguy1234 wrote: post #22
fab1an wrote: post #5

Really great to see some actual non incremental innovation happening in the search space. When looking at Golden's value prop, it becomes clear that Google has actually been somewhat, ehm, lazy when it comes to making search better, relying almost 100% on UGC to provide answers instead of trying to structure them in a concise way. Very curious to see where this leads!

I agree as well with google. When google first showed up, it was a breakthrough since the quality of the results were so good compared to what we are used to. Fast forward to today - more data, more websites and so on has resulted in new problems and I think Google has not kept up. Just because a website has been around for a decade or has 50,000 backlinks doesn't mean it is still good today. Information might be obs…

To the contrary, new websites with garbage content, swamped by ads - but published recently - often rank above actual quality sites with well written content from 10 years ago.

Not saying what you described doesn’t happen, but both are problems.

Re: Golden raises $14.5M Series A led by a16z and Marc Andreessen joins board

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Post by theYipster »

zaroth wrote: post #48
Cactus2018 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not sure if it does now, but I do know that reading data from tables in a manner that can be easily integrated and scaled within a broader semantic processing system is quite difficult. I'm not as focused on the space as I once was, so I'm not sure if the problem has been well solved yet. If not, I'd say it's a worthy area to invest in a solution. In R you can read data from tables like this: df In google sheet…

In the problem space of “reading data from tables in a manner that can be easily integrated and scaled within a broader semantic processing system”... I would assume that “reading data from tables” isn’t the hard part.

You would assume correctly. The core issue is that one can't interpret meaning from a table and its values from semantics alone. A table's layout conveys a great deal of meaning.

I remember looking at a couple of systems that would try to do a visual-based zonal tagging of a table, but I think the challenge there was how to logically integrate the zonal tagging into the broader semantic processing of the surrounding text.

Not being able to construe information from tables is a huge stumbling block for semantic and NLP systems for a large number of use cases that incorporate technical content. Automating patent research is one I looked at 6 or 7 years ago and tables tanked the concept. Semantic search over digitized maintenance manuals is another use-case I've wrestled with that's a tough nut to crack if the underlying manuals aren't available in a structured schema.

Re: Golden raises $14.5M Series A led by a16z and Marc Andreessen joins board

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Post by memossy »

Lots of promise and a nice front end, but I'm struggling to see where after three years an example of high value knowledge in this platform is.

For example on the top topic AI most of the sections are unfilled / or lightweight aside from a list of companies with minimal contributions over the last few months: https://golden.com/wiki/Cluster%3A_Artificial_intelligence-J...

There is nothing on AI ethics (indeed this is the only thing on ethics: https://golden.com/wiki/Ethics-BJW8)

Looking at some comments above that maybe crypto was the angle I looked at a few articles and under Ethereum it says that the Constantinople release date was still to be determined (actual release date was 28th February 2019).

It seems there is a decent amount of company data in there (a la pitchbook, crunchbase), but in terms of practical, useful knowledge that is authoritative per the front page, what are some good examples now there?

Re: Golden raises $14.5M Series A led by a16z and Marc Andreessen joins board

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Post by agustif »

theYipster wrote: post #25

Having worked with the "original" Watson, I saw first hand how the system stumbled upon a particularly stupid but hard problem as it tried to scale. In 2014, I saw a demo of the original Discovery Advisor, which was at the time the closest commercial equivalent to the "Jeopardy system." This demo took in Wikipedia as a corpus, and a question was asked: "what country produced the greatest amount of wheat in 2012?" The…

Wikipedia just released an API for Tables, that should help?

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Post by contingencies »

electriclove wrote: post #40
bfieidhbrjr wrote: post #21

Serious question, are they building another FreeBase?

But monetized ala Bloomberg

... with infinite pockets at the helm and cronies to spin product to which can support the notion of growth far enough in to the hype cycle to secure returns.

Perhaps their CEO will have the moral fiber to sign a commitment guaranteeing a nontrivial (eg. double digit percentage) of annual expenses (not earnings, I'd wager this is a long way from generating profit) going directly to open source database projects they draw from. I'd wager not.

Re: Golden raises $14.5M Series A led by a16z and Marc Andreessen joins board

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Post by teruakohatu »

agustif wrote: post #65
theYipster wrote: post #25

Having worked with the "original" Watson, I saw first hand how the system stumbled upon a particularly stupid but hard problem as it tried to scale. In 2014, I saw a demo of the original Discovery Advisor, which was at the time the closest commercial equivalent to the "Jeopardy system." This demo took in Wikipedia as a corpus, and a question was asked: "what country produced the greatest amount of wheat in 2012?" The…

Wikipedia just released an API for Tables, that should help?

Do you have a link to that? Google is failing me.

Re: Golden raises $14.5M Series A led by a16z and Marc Andreessen joins board

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Post by some-people »

contingencies wrote: post #66
electriclove wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But monetized ala Bloomberg

... with infinite pockets at the helm and cronies to spin product to which can support the notion of growth far enough in to the hype cycle to secure returns. Perhaps their CEO will have the moral fiber to sign a commitment guaranteeing a nontrivial (eg. double digit percentage) of annual expenses (not earnings, I'd wager this is a long way from generating profit) going directly to open source database projects they…

Brings back the question: What problem does it solve? Content? Because it's really lacking. It seems great for a company search, but we have crunchbase for that. I could get a far more detailed explanation on any technical topic from Wikipedia.

Re: Golden raises $14.5M Series A led by a16z and Marc Andreessen joins board

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Post by agustif »

teruakohatu wrote: post #67
agustif wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikipedia just released an API for Tables, that should help?

Do you have a link to that? Google is failing me.

Maybe it was this? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24533808
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