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Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

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post #6

It is not obvious from the title but Element is actually acquiring Gitter. Quote from the article: > In practice, the way this is happening is that Element (the company founded by the Matrix core team to fund Matrix development) is acquiring Gitter from GitLab, with a combined Gitter and Element dev team focusing on giving Gitter a new life in Matrix! There is also another blogpost from the elements side https://elem…

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Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

#62
From the optimalized side we are always sorry that anything joiins the Matrix enclave. Matrix is so over-utilized and under-optimalized, I hope they will do something about it, since it's embarrassing that Mozilla co uses it as their war-room, and, wait, that it sucks so much. Mozilla is semi-corrupt so perhaps that's the CO'd answer. Matrix sucks, even Discord is danged better.

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

#63

I really like to use IRC on the terminal via Irssi. Can Irssi be used to access this matrix thing? If not, is there some nice matrix command line client in the Debian repos? Or maybe someone could just make an IRC server which is a bridge to matrix?

use weechat, you fucking looser. irssi is outdated!

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

#64
Gitter has a much simpler onboarding experience and users don't have to be signed in or members of a room to view chat. I like the ideals of Element. In fact I have the services bridged between chat rooms. Currently editing chat posts between different clients is less than subpar. Gitter build on Element will fix that issue.

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

#65
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using it mostly out of necessity (a project I'm involved in uses it for communication), but I'm mostly enthusiastic about no longer having that annoying Matrixbot - there were always a number of Matrix users, and the implementation was incredibly confusing. It's a nice bonus that I'll no longer be dependent on Gitter's somewhat buggy Web UI. (That said, I am somewhat sceptical about whether we'll see any reasonable r…

> That said, I am somewhat sceptical about whether we'll see any reasonable results in a reasonable amount of time As Element we are if nothing else highly financially motivated to get Gitter bridged into Matrix, so we can run it via our normal Matrix server backend farm rather than keep an entirely parallel deployment running of Gitter infrastructure. We also want to stick to our word :)

I'm rooting for you!

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

#66

Additional topics discussed in our just-released conversation[1] with GitLab and Element leads: 1. What happened to "ChatOps" and why is GitLab divesting in this space? 2. Who contacted whom? What are some details of the acquisition process and negotiations? 3. What does this mean at a practical sense for existing Gitter users? 4. What's going to happen in the next 6, 12, and 18 months? [1]: https://changelog.com/pod…

"ChatOps" almost invariably means Slack. That's why GitLab is divesting in that space.

Look at what happened HipChat, Stride, etc.

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

#67
post #5

From the Matrix side, we're ridiculously happy to have the opportunity to defragment developer chat a bit, and get folks on Gitter natively talking to folks elsewhere on Matrix (including bridged to IRC, Slack, Discord or whatever). The fragmentation of FOSS development chat into proprietary silos a few years back was incredibly depressing, and this is our attempt to put right what once went wrong :) Happy to try to…

One of the best features of Gitter is that it can be embedded on webpages which reduces a lot of friction for public communities. Please keep that feature and perhaps, even replicate it in Matrix. This can be a unique value prop for both over the proprietary ones. Plus, it enriches the Web as opposed to moving all things into app silos.

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

#68
post #11

So, how long will it take (approximate) to complete the mentioned process ? Also, I think that matrix ecosystem will grow from this move.

We hope to get Gitter natively speaking Matrix in the coming months. It'll probably be a year or so before Element has feature parity with Gitter though :)

Good luck. We're all counting on you.

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

#69

Additional topics discussed in our just-released conversation[1] with GitLab and Element leads: 1. What happened to "ChatOps" and why is GitLab divesting in this space? 2. Who contacted whom? What are some details of the acquisition process and negotiations? 3. What does this mean at a practical sense for existing Gitter users? 4. What's going to happen in the next 6, 12, and 18 months? [1]: https://changelog.com/pod…

1. ChatOps is still a feature of GitLab https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/ci/chatops/ and supports multiple chat platforms. GitLab doesn't need to own the chat to make chatops work.

2. GitLab contacted Matrix.

I think 3. and 4. have answers in https://matrix.org/blog/2020/09/30/welcoming-gitter-to-matri...

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

#70

> Our plan is instead to merge Gitter’s features into Element (or next generations of Element) itself and then - if and only if Element has achieved parity with Gitter based on the above list - we expect to upgrade the deployment on gitter.im to a Gitter-customised version of Element. The inevitable side-effect is that we’ll be adding new features to Element rather than Gitter going forwards. Wonder what existing Git…

I'm happy about it.

For me, one shortcoming of gitter is that it has always been tertiary in my pool of chat services. The more tertiary services are accessible through matrix the better, that way I'm less likely to miss notifications.

I don't think there are big downsides, I can't think of anything in the core gitter chat that I would miss when switching to matrix.

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