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Ask HN: How to find “senior” jack of all trades jobs?

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Re: Ask HN: How to find “senior” jack of all trades jobs?

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Not every nation on earth underpays their public sector workers.

Can you provide an example of a public sector job/country that pays their employees well while also not being extremely corrupt?

I work in the public sector of Denmark. I make around 20-25% less of my peers in similar private sector functions. I have a friend that I graduated with who’s hopped between a few public sector jobs and for him the number is 5-10%.

On the flip side, I work completely flexible hours. Never more than 37hours a week, and within those 37 hours I get a paid lunch break, so it’s really 34,5 hours a week. It brings flexible, I’ve sometimes had 70 hour weeks doing big transitions or elections (we do digitised voter signin, and there is a lot of preparation involved to make sure it doesn’t fuck up and that everyone knows what to do if it does). In Denmark everyone in stable jobs gets to take the first day of a child being sick off. I get three days. Every man gets 2 weeks of paid and guaranteed paternity leave, I get 13 weeks. I get two extra paid vacation days per child under 13 a year (up to 3 or 4 children, not sure about the limit). I get an extra week of paid vacation a year compared to the national standards. If I have to see a doctor or a dentist, I can do so on and count the time as working hours. And I get to work in an environment where people won’t bat an eye when you use these things, you obviously can’t abuse them without getting attention.

We have some of the lowest corruption in the world, and while our leaderships and management structure is archaic and IT is completely undervalued considering every one of our employees uses it at least 1 hour a day and about two thousand of them spend their entire day working with computers, it’s not terrible.

Like I said, the pay is lower than the private sector, but IT is paid well, so even though I could make more money outside the public sector, I still make more money a month than my mother who’s been a anaesthetic nurse for 39 years. The only professions who rank in more money than me outside of tech is things like doctors, lawyers and middlemanagers. So I think it’s fair enough. Obviously my boss has the same benefits as me and he makes around tripple of what I do, so it’s still better to be a manager in the public sector than an IT grunt.

Re: Ask HN: How to find “senior” jack of all trades jobs?

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Coming from a generalist who's been at their startup for six years, has roughly 20 years of generalist experience, and is entering a new growth phase: pick a focus for now, get really good at it and leverage that. Your generalist skills won't go away, and your focus will be rewarded.

Also find a really good, experienced manager/leader who can help coach you into that phase. I've found it's very hard for generalists to self-motivate when focusing on a specific and narrow development, and a good coach helps.

If you want to stay a generalist, that's great, go join small startups and bring your experience to them, help them grow and then move on to the next. Early stage startups crave experienced generalists and you can ride that for a long time.

Re: Ask HN: How to find “senior” jack of all trades jobs?

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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not every nation on earth underpays their public sector workers.

Can you provide an example of a public sector job/country that pays their employees well while also not being extremely corrupt?

Australia

Re: Ask HN: How to find “senior” jack of all trades jobs?

#64
I have a similar skillset to you and have worked on nearly everything at some point in small companies and startups. I love being a generalist and designing whole systems or other times working on one small part. I ended up freelancing and couldn’t be happier, if you can ease into getting some steady clients it might also work for you.

Re: Ask HN: How to find “senior” jack of all trades jobs?

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If you want to be at a funded startup, try to backchannel rather than finding a public posting. Find a larger company you think is interesting, then figure out who invested in them in the early days. Find early founders/employees who've since moved on. Find out what those people are investing in or working on now.

Re: Ask HN: How to find “senior” jack of all trades jobs?

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Consider consulting. I like the variety of roles, and changing clients periodically keeps things fresh and exposes me to a lot of technology. I prefer working for a company so I don't have to find my own clients, and get benefits and a steady paycheck. If you can manage your own network, you can potentially earn more, but it's a lot of work finding a steady stream of clients on your own.

People are finally starting to realize that benefits are orthogonal to the mission of the company and should be replaced with increased base salaries instead. If the company spends $X on processing your $Y benefit for a year, your salary would increase by $X + $Y, and you would just (optionally) sign up into whatever programs are available to you, without much of a UX change.

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Re: Ask HN: How to find “senior” jack of all trades jobs?

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I'm in the same boat, inside any given org I can tangibly feel that "jack of all trades" is in huge demand... and I find myself working long hours due to internal demand for this role inside companies. Like you, in my 20 years doing this type of role (wearing a large variety of different title hats) I've never been HIRED to the role. This feels odd, given playing the role always keeps me in high demand internally to…

> But even if they spent serious time using a technology, they still need 4 hrs of work in it to look surface competent again (I think because they're constantly swapping knowledge in and out, vs a deep knowledge person who have practiced the same patterns over and over and over). I've been doing professional software work for 25 years. The last several years I've been working with various JS toolkits (vue/angular, s…

Even Jack of all trades persons only need or want that 1 individual.. regardless of the amount of on the job training or years at specified company

Re: Ask HN: How to find “senior” jack of all trades jobs?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are finally starting to realize that benefits are orthogonal to the mission of the company and should be replaced with increased base salaries instead. If the company spends $X on processing your $Y benefit for a year, your salary would increase by $X + $Y, and you would just (optionally) sign up into whatever programs are available to you, without much of a UX change.

I'm no expert, but I have a hard time believing the economics are this simple. Take health insurance: I'd imagine employers are buying plans offering per-employee costs lower than if each employee were paying for their own insurance. Economies of scale, bargaining power (at least when it comes to larger firms), etc. Perhaps at some firms the processing costs really do outweigh the savings, but I would expect this to…

None of the companies I've worked for offered a decent insurance plan. One had it, but it was more for the other 300 minimum wage workers and practically covered nothing other than car accidents.

There were companies that offered full, proper health insurance, but I had my own so the value was close to nil, and the salaries were 25% lower than the smaller companies offered.

Benefits tend to be mostly flat across employees to make use of economics of scale. I'd love something like a company car, and would happily take a salary cut because they're liabilities and it's a win-win where taxes are involved. But if a company won't offer a car to everyone, it's not going to happen. I got free parking as a benefit once but only used it a quarter of the month because it was cheaper to Uber to work. I know they were paying for the parking every month and I'd rather take the cash, but I wouldn't turn down an extra $30 of savings even though it cost them about $100.

Re: Ask HN: How to find “senior” jack of all trades jobs?

#69

Consider consulting. I like the variety of roles, and changing clients periodically keeps things fresh and exposes me to a lot of technology. I prefer working for a company so I don't have to find my own clients, and get benefits and a steady paycheck. If you can manage your own network, you can potentially earn more, but it's a lot of work finding a steady stream of clients on your own.

As a generalist I also found consulting to be a good fit for me. Also good if you easily get bored because you are usually not tied to a product and get to work with different teams and clients every few months.

Re: Ask HN: How to find “senior” jack of all trades jobs?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are finally starting to realize that benefits are orthogonal to the mission of the company and should be replaced with increased base salaries instead. If the company spends $X on processing your $Y benefit for a year, your salary would increase by $X + $Y, and you would just (optionally) sign up into whatever programs are available to you, without much of a UX change.

I'm no expert, but I have a hard time believing the economics are this simple. Take health insurance: I'd imagine employers are buying plans offering per-employee costs lower than if each employee were paying for their own insurance. Economies of scale, bargaining power (at least when it comes to larger firms), etc. Perhaps at some firms the processing costs really do outweigh the savings, but I would expect this to…

I'm not sure if the option is worth the increased cost either, but at a glance it seems convoluted. Why is the employer even involved? Is there a reason private companies could not utilize the economy of scale and provide solutions? Why did this become a threesome? Insurance should be between me and my insurer.
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