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Amazon details its low-bandwidth Sidewalk neighborhood network

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Re: Amazon details its low-bandwidth Sidewalk neighborhood network

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Low bandwidth mesh networking is super interesting but I would prefer not to have it supplied by Buy'n'Large.

Well, there’s always Helium I suppose...if they haven’t pivoted again by now.

I am checking their homepage. It does not seem like they are doing something else? Still its a network to low bandwidth network to connect devices ?

Re: Amazon details its low-bandwidth Sidewalk neighborhood network

#62

Low bandwidth mesh networking is super interesting but I would prefer not to have it supplied by Buy'n'Large.

Ha, they truly are that corporation from wall-e. When blue origin eventually begins offering space cruise vacations it will really seal the deal.

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Side note: Is it me or has Amazon been announcing a lot of things lately? I think the fact that Amazon is beginning to rule the fabric of the world and is controlled by the richest man in the world makes me slightly uneasy. I can't really place it right now but something tells me a decade from now this is going to be a big problem and they were just left unchecked to proliferate throughout the world until we became e…

Yeah, imagine if they were to improve our life even more!

And that attitude is exactly why it's scary.

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Yeah, imagine if they were to improve our life even more!

And this is the unfortunate dichotomy. We are thankful to our abusers. We often don't even understand how they are using us for their own benefits but we are grateful to them. Something is awry but because we are reaping the benefits now we're blind to it.

It is not abusing, it is trading. The world is not zero-sum.

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> The maximum bandwidth a device can use is capped at 500MB Per day? Per month? Per year? For the device's lifetime?

Yeah, it's weird how they stated that. It sounds like it's for the lifetime of the device, which means a device could theoretically use up it's allotment in under two hours...

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Piratebox [1] over lora? Is this the future of piracy? [1] https://piratebox.cc/

Max 500MB per device per spec. Also 80kbpsmax , so, probably not.

You could share revolutionary texts like the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Das Kapital at least.

Re: Amazon details its low-bandwidth Sidewalk neighborhood network

#67

Low bandwidth mesh networking is super interesting but I would prefer not to have it supplied by Buy'n'Large.

I'm surprised more hobbyists haven't developed public mesh networks. There are so many wireless routers and devices that this seems like a great opportunity. I would think makerspaces would be all over this idea.

https://www.nycmesh.net/blog/how/

Re: Amazon details its low-bandwidth Sidewalk neighborhood network

#68

Low bandwidth mesh networking is super interesting but I would prefer not to have it supplied by Buy'n'Large.

I'm surprised more hobbyists haven't developed public mesh networks. There are so many wireless routers and devices that this seems like a great opportunity. I would think makerspaces would be all over this idea. https://www.nycmesh.net/blog/how/

A lot of people have tried - getting enough people to do it to support 1) any mesh network 2) your mesh network, specifically is hard

Re: Amazon details its low-bandwidth Sidewalk neighborhood network

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> Amazon expects that users won’t mind sharing a small fraction of their bandwidth with their neighbors. Very interested to see how this will be protected against exploits.

seems that Xfinity already does something similar, where by default, anyone can connect to your network as a guest (if they are an Xfinity customer themselves)

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They should be universally told to pound sand without a warrant. You don’t give the armed representatives of the state everything they ask for just because they’re being polite; make them go through the proper procedures with oversight.

Probably when you know that your neighbor was burglarized or attacked, etc., you don’t want to impede the investigation. That’s worse than not taking care of your weeds or garbage in your yard in terms of getting along with neighbors.

“Don’t impede the investigation” is second only to “think of the children” for the erosion of our rights. Those who will abuse their powers will always have a great excuse for it, which is why we must be vigilant.

And of course the neighbor can freely hand over their own data to the cops if they want to; the cops should need a warrant to get that video from Amazon directly.

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