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From the statement: “We can’t in good conscience recommend to Japanese professionals and businesses to make their livelihood depend on a closed-source, superficial rebranding of Zig“ Does the zig foundation have a problem with recommending closed-source superficial rebrandings of Zig or just from connectFree?
did you read the description of what happened?
Statement Regarding the Zen Programming Language
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While I can't speak with absolute certainty, we probably would not want to merge any "improvement" Zen made.
“Since then, “No. 2” has resigned from their position at connectFree, but won’t be able to contribute to the Zig project for some time because of a “non-compete” clause present in the contract.“ So why do you care if No. 2 is not able to work on Zig if you don’t value the contributions he’s made to Zen?
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“Since then, “No. 2” has resigned from their position at connectFree, but won’t be able to contribute to the Zig project for some time because of a “non-compete” clause present in the contract.“ So why do you care if No. 2 is not able to work on Zig if you don’t value the contributions he’s made to Zen?
Maybe they believe that No. 2 is capable of making valuable contributions, but that the specific contributions made at the direction of the Zen founder aren’t valuable.
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#64Hello HN and sorry for this bizarre drama! Although we have a page documenting some outlandish comments that the founder of Zig has made about Zen[0], we find it well inside of our rights to fork the MIT Licensed Zig and make a better product with commercial support. We had initial plans to support Zig in Japan, but efforts to localize Zig were not accepted and we could not take the risk of not having some sort of fo…
Dude... what are you even doing?
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#65This is why you always use GPL
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For those that believe in software freedoms as fewer restrictions, you have to accept that people may take advantage of your fewer restrictions. This is the cost of giving more (beer) freedom, and you don't have to abandon your principles because of how it manifests. (this has obvious political analogies in other restriction-less freedom contexts too)
The existence of this blog post suggests to me that they either don’t believe in total software freedom or they haven’t yet accepted that people will take advantage of it.
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All of that developers work on zen would be available to the zig foundation if it were licensed GPL. If it were licensed GPL and they were violating that license they could sue in the legal system instead of writing a blog post with dubious effect.
and where would the money and time to pursue a lawsuit come from?
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did you read the description of what happened?
Yes
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#69As somebody that just got into Zig and loves the language, it makes me super sad that the developers on this project have to spend their valuable time stressing about BS like this. Also, the ideas the Zen people list on their website for forking Zig are terrible ideas- They were pushing to turn Zig into a hard-to-reason-about vanilla object-oriented programming language.
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While I can't speak with absolute certainty, we probably would not want to merge any "improvement" Zen made.
“Since then, “No. 2” has resigned from their position at connectFree, but won’t be able to contribute to the Zig project for some time because of a “non-compete” clause present in the contract.“ So why do you care if No. 2 is not able to work on Zig if you don’t value the contributions he’s made to Zen?