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Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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You're 100% right. Everything Apple does can be construed as "abuse" if someone is willing to argue in bad faith. iOS now tells you when one app pastes content from the clipboard, if the contents of the clipboard came from another app. e.g., You copy a zip code from Messages, and then switch to the "HN-Maps" app. If HN-Maps sniffs the clipboard in order to suggest that zip code as a destination, you see a notificatio…

Maps actually make a perfect example of why this needs to exist, even without malicious actors. Your zipcode example starts off as a perfectly well-meaning example of clipboard-sniffing, but after a very short meeting with "reality", quickly turns into passing strings to a geo API because there's a lot more addresses than just zipcodes we'd like to detect. And it just so happens that the most significant provider of…

You are preaching to the choir on this subject!

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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post #35

Watch “The Social Dilemma” on Netflix, see how far off the rails the industry has gone, then come back and tell me that Apple is the bad guy here. Someone needs to start standing up for what’s right, and Apple is probably the only one with the size and cash reserves to be able to do it. For all the free market cheerleaders, remember this: we already have laws in place preventing or regulating businesses from engaging…

Apple is a giant corporation with varied interests. In some areas they align with consumers (they’re not heavily in advertising... yet) while in others their anti-competitive behavior is harmful.

Writing these impassioned posts like you’re defending the decisions of your favorite sports team that can do no wrong... oof.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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post #46

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You've clearly never played Fortnite. Epic doesn't sell loot boxes, they sell skins. You get exactly what you pay for, there is nothing sketchy about it.

While I agree it’s not sketchy in that you get what you pay for, the true cost of what you are paying is obfuscated casino-style from their player base, which is mostly kids. Case in point, my son will want to spend 2500 vbucks on a skin until I put that into real dollars for him - “are you sure, that’s $25 of your money” (a bit less with package bonuses notwithstanding). Perhaps this is my penance for working on Far…

I don't understand how Apple protects by taking a large cut of same?

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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I CAN'T WAIT for decentralized infrastructure to finally become robust enough that clones of instagram and facebook can all share a network -- they'll all become portals to the same social graph data. When that happens, there will no longer be any reason to put up with this abuse of privacy garbage.

Just a general response to some of the skeptics here (I hear your points, I just think we're still early in the game). I do believe this will happen. I believe it's inevitable, it will just take time. The main advantage over current networks+apps is that it breaks the barrier to entry for new competitors. Mastodon etc are still early newcomers who still have to break that barrier. But once there are many of them playing in the same water, they can gradually build a competing network - slowly at first, then they'll win over the entire new generation. Whatever the next "tik-tok" is could be decentralized, and then the flood gates open. Advertising and privacy issues will still exist, but it will be competitive. There will no longer be a monopoly gate keeper who that sets the rules. Lots of details to be worked out for sure. We need user interfaces to improve and get simplified. I agree that right now federated platforms like mastodon are still too cumbersome for users. But I believe all of this will improve and this will work eventually. I think it's coming this decade.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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I CAN'T WAIT for decentralized infrastructure to finally become robust enough that clones of instagram and facebook can all share a network -- they'll all become portals to the same social graph data. When that happens, there will no longer be any reason to put up with this abuse of privacy garbage.

Never going to happen. Ever. Decentralized means it's inevitably more cumbersome to use. If you make it easier you're taking shortcuts somewhere, especially if you want a platform that's resistant to censorship and is supposed to provide anonymity. And if you actually do succeed in this you'll inevitably end up with a platform where highly immoral content is just a wrong click away. It'll be this cycle of a new platf…

> Decentralized means it's inevitably more cumbersome to use.

Which will lead to a lot of users being hosted on a single instance which provides convenient access, which completes the loop to centralized. See gmail.

> And if you actually do succeed in this you'll inevitably end up with a platform where highly immoral content is just a wrong click away.

I don't think that is necessarily a problem for most users.

> It'll be this cycle of a new platform being fresh and trendy, then they become bigger, care about being taken seriously by traditional media, for getting ad deals with the big players, then a new platform pops up, cycle repeats.

This is, though. See Reddit :(

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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> But Facebook has 2.5 billion users and Instagram 1 billion — and they’re the sole gatekeepers of their own massive platforms.

What's good for the goose, not the gander type of mentality at play here.

However, using these numbers 2.5 BILLION users for FB and 1 BILLION users for Insta. Even if these platforms have to go with non-targeted ads, that's still a huge pool of potential eyeballs for an advertiser. If you we placed in front of 1% of that pool, that's 10 MILLION viewers. You'd be hard pressed to get those numbers for a national TV ad. So even 0.5% brings it down to 5 MILLION people. These are very large numbers.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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post #35

Watch “The Social Dilemma” on Netflix, see how far off the rails the industry has gone, then come back and tell me that Apple is the bad guy here. Someone needs to start standing up for what’s right, and Apple is probably the only one with the size and cash reserves to be able to do it. For all the free market cheerleaders, remember this: we already have laws in place preventing or regulating businesses from engaging…

Apple cares about their bottom line, they're privacy focused only because it works for their business model. If they stopped being anti right to repair then maybe i'd be interested.

That's it right there, business models which align with (or are constrained by) society's values.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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post #50
post #35

Watch “The Social Dilemma” on Netflix, see how far off the rails the industry has gone, then come back and tell me that Apple is the bad guy here. Someone needs to start standing up for what’s right, and Apple is probably the only one with the size and cash reserves to be able to do it. For all the free market cheerleaders, remember this: we already have laws in place preventing or regulating businesses from engaging…

> Epic wants to sell digital gambling (loot) boxes to children Fortnite hasn't had loot boxes like this for about 18 months. The contents of the box are visible and change each day. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/01/fortnite-puts-an-end-...

Which is still gambling, just on the contents of the next box. It’s obfuscating the gambling, and it’s unfortunately working.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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post #14

I hate being in a position to defend Facebook or Instagram, but independent of the size of any of the platforms, Apple is a gatekeeper for them, not the other way around.

>Apple is a gatekeeper for them, not the other way around. Given that Android has a 75% share[0] of the mobile OS market, that isn't really true. Apple is a gatekeeper for the 23% or so of mobile devices. I think that giving end users control over what data about them is exfiltrated from their devices is a good thing. And assuming that applies to Apple apps as well, it sounds like a win for IOS users. N.B.: I do not…

Should be noted that in the United States, iOS has the majority share ~59%

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/united-sta...

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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post #51
post #35

Watch “The Social Dilemma” on Netflix, see how far off the rails the industry has gone, then come back and tell me that Apple is the bad guy here. Someone needs to start standing up for what’s right, and Apple is probably the only one with the size and cash reserves to be able to do it. For all the free market cheerleaders, remember this: we already have laws in place preventing or regulating businesses from engaging…

Apple cares so much they will take 30% of those loot box profits.

Except they kicked fortnight off the store, so they are now getting 0%. And since Fortnight is free to buy, Apple would also get $0 if forced to allow non-IAP purchases.
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