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Germany conducts first nationwide emergency warning day in decades

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Re: Germany conducts first nationwide emergency warning day in decades

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post #22

And the official national warning app (NINA) failed

Well, I mean, that's what you do tests for.

There's been an official response now: The system was overwhelmed because instead of just one nation-wide alarm, several local institutions used the system for local alarms. Which is scary: The number of local alarms was three I read (very uncertain about that number). And the nationwide alarm came 31 minutes late. That seems unreasonable, but yeah I guess the test was productive at least.

Re: Germany conducts first nationwide emergency warning day in decades

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Tension in Europe is real. This was planned well ahead of pandemics and possibility of war is finally on the table.

This is total nonsense. E.g. in The Netherlands we have had tests every first Monday of the month, since I can't remember how long (I am 37 now), with the exception of 1997-2003 (when it was done once a year).

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Re: Germany conducts first nationwide emergency warning day in decades

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post #29

That would have been 15 minutes ago and it seems that nothing happened.

Not all cities have a sirene. Do you have and apps like NINA or KATWARN?

Mine has, although they scrapped the weekly tests on saturday some years ago. Someone probably forgot to press the button.

Re: Germany conducts first nationwide emergency warning day in decades

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I mean, that's what you do tests for.

There's been an official response now: The system was overwhelmed because instead of just one nation-wide alarm, several local institutions used the system for local alarms. Which is scary: The number of local alarms was three I read (very uncertain about that number). And the nationwide alarm came 31 minutes late. That seems unreasonable, but yeah I guess the test was productive at least.

The whole system is flawed. They should take a look at how Japan has implemented the J-Alert system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-Alert

Cell broadcast is much more suitable than a stupid app if you want to warn people in a certain area.

Re: Germany conducts first nationwide emergency warning day in decades

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post #65
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's been an official response now: The system was overwhelmed because instead of just one nation-wide alarm, several local institutions used the system for local alarms. Which is scary: The number of local alarms was three I read (very uncertain about that number). And the nationwide alarm came 31 minutes late. That seems unreasonable, but yeah I guess the test was productive at least.

The whole system is flawed. They should take a look at how Japan has implemented the J-Alert system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-Alert Cell broadcast is much more suitable than a stupid app if you want to warn people in a certain area.

Yes, obviously using the phone network is the better idea. But realistically the goal of these projects is not to create a working system. The goal is to create something "new" to leech money off the federal and EU projects, which they succesfully did.

Re: Germany conducts first nationwide emergency warning day in decades

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post #58
post #13

Correction to the article: the annual test day will be the second Thursday in September, not always the tenth. I don't understand why Cell Broadcast is not used. Surely many people don't have the app installed? I'd never heard of it and I've lived in this country the whole time it's been available.

I have simply no idea who thought it was a good idea to implement a nation-wide warning system on an app that has ~15k downloads[0]~. We already get warnings through cell broadcast here in Hamburg for the weather (last year we got multiple high wind warnings). I'm very disappointed. [0] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.materna.bbk... Edit: As a commenter pointed out, it has 1M+ downloads. But I'm stil…

It has ~15k reviews, but 1M+ downloads.
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