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This is unfortunate. Adtech is a cancer. We don't need to give it time to adapt, we need to shut it down.
Ads will definitely not disappear, only the tracking aspect. It will be more contextual ads probably, related to what page your are looking at, less related to you as an individual.
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Do you realize the number of free services that one uses thanks to ads? Not everyone can afford to pay for these. I for one use gmail, google maps, google calendar, google docs, etc. Every day
Do you realize how much bullshit people buy that they do not need because of ads? People end up with much less money because of that. And the environment suffers too. And no, without apps people would be able to discover new things. Current ads are not about facts but connecting feelings with products.
Other people's issues with financial self-control isn't a solid basis for being against something. By that logic, alcohol, clothing stores, videogames, literally anything that might influence people to buy things they don't really need is bad.
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Do you realize the number of free services that one uses thanks to ads? Not everyone can afford to pay for these. I for one use gmail, google maps, google calendar, google docs, etc. Every day
Do you realize how much bullshit people buy that they do not need because of ads? People end up with much less money because of that. And the environment suffers too. And no, without apps people would be able to discover new things. Current ads are not about facts but connecting feelings with products.
At least we're not buying pet rocks now.
(Re-posting on this thread) What a bummer! As an iOS user, I was eagerly looking forward to this feature, wanting to tell others about it and how the upgrade to iOS 14 would be worth it just to clearly expose apps that want to track users. I already have ad tracking limited in my settings (Settings->Privacy->Limit Ad Tracking), but that was something I had to explicitly turn on, and there’s no notice on which apps us…
One thing that removes a lot of credibility from Apple's "for the good of the user" communication on this is that they broke out the personalization for their own ad network as an option, put it in a different location, and made it opt-out instead of opt-in. https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2020/08/07/apple-a...
If Apple is indeed favouring their own ad services they might indeed be the target of very well funded antitrust-based legal campaigns. I assume the adtech companies would have at least threatened them with this.
So they are probably going to retune their own ad service to comply with the same before they go live with this change.
Apple's blog post about their plans: "We are committed to ensuring users can choose whether or not they allow an app to track them. To give developers time to make necessary changes, apps will be required to obtain permission to track users starting early next year. More information, including an update to the App Store Review Guidelines, will follow this fall." https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=hx9s63c5
This reads as just another popup you'll need to click before you can use any app. Just like cookies.
As much as I like iOS in this regard, it’s a shame Apple felt this threatened to delay this feature. I’m sure privacy is a high priority to Apple but when it comes to money, expect them to do this more often. Privacy users are already taking things into their own hands anyway, so this only hurts the tech novices. Edit: It’s funny how on HN, you can tell the ones who get triggered when you say something disparaging ab…
This is unfortunate. Adtech is a cancer. We don't need to give it time to adapt, we need to shut it down.
The only cancer is people spewing compost without any depth to their thinking. Adtech has powered things since dawn of civilization. Here educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_advertising If you just flat out ban shit without nuanced understanding, you hurt people more than help. Facebook will pivot, they will charge people for video or gaming or oculus. But there will be no shopify, no tv shows,…
This is unfortunate. Adtech is a cancer. We don't need to give it time to adapt, we need to shut it down.
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It pays for the modern web. It is probably in need of more transparency and clear user defined controls but hardly a cancer.
And what have we gained from it? Toxic unconstrained social networks, more methods to make everyone feel uglier and worthless, endlessly consume random crap without producing anything of value, and robotic hamburger making shops that no one asked for and are somehow IT related?