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Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by Navarr »

gruez wrote: post #51
Navarr wrote: post #22

How does this work considering PHP is heavily made up of code from Zend (which was an Israeli company) Can Iranian-built websites not use PHP?

>Zend (which was an Israeli company) What? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zend_(company) >Zend, formerly Zend Technologies, is a Minneapolis, Minnesota-based software company owned by software developer Perforce. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perforce >Perforce, legally Perforce Software, Inc., is an American developer of software [...]

Zend was bought by RogueWave who was bought by Perforce.

Zend was founded by Israelis, from that same article on Zend:

> Zend Technologies was founded by Andi Gutmans and Zeev Suraski who, along with other Israeli graduates of the Technion, the Israel Institute of technology

I am currently assuming it was founded in Israel, but to be fair the article does not explicitly say where it was founded.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by kome »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #26
flixic wrote: post #15

If this PR would have come from a sufficiently anonymous user (no location / profile picture), I'm sure it would have gone through. I'm certain maintainers don't check identity and nationality of every contributor.

I don't think it's an acceptable state of affairs if people feel pressured to keep their nationality private.

but that's what happens in the real world when you apply to jobs, to renting houses, etc.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by newswasboring »

gruez wrote: post #51
Navarr wrote: post #22

How does this work considering PHP is heavily made up of code from Zend (which was an Israeli company) Can Iranian-built websites not use PHP?

>Zend (which was an Israeli company) What? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zend_(company) >Zend, formerly Zend Technologies, is a Minneapolis, Minnesota-based software company owned by software developer Perforce. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perforce >Perforce, legally Perforce Software, Inc., is an American developer of software [...]

from the history section

> Zend Technologies was founded by Andi Gutmans and Zeev Suraski who, along with other Israeli graduates of the Technion, the Israel Institute of technology, further developed PHP after its initial creation by Rasmus Lerdorf. The name Zend is a combination of Suraski's and Gutmans' forenames, Zeev and Andi.[citation needed]

Deliberately kept the citation needed, but still it is Israil origin which is enough for persecution.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by dgellow »

newswasboring wrote: post #52

Edit: Sorry I completely misread it. I thought he said just "merged" it instead of encouraging "merge" it. Still interesting to learn about Behdad though, cool stuff about localization and language support. Interestingly merged by Behdad Esfahbod who is also iranian. He was even arrested by the iranian government in the past > Esfahbod claims that he was arrested by Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps intelligence ech…

Where do you see that he merged it? He’s just saying that it should be merged as far as I can tell.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by Alir3z4 »

newswasboring wrote: post #56
Alir3z4 wrote: post #47

I never knew about such law. For those who have Pikachu eyes now, or whoever gave thumbs down on the maintainer comment, I dare you to do a single tiny transaction with Iran or an Iranian citizen which would be in violation of unilateral sanctions imposed by US on Iran and Iranian national globally and you'd see how you'll get a taste of freedom and liberty and some prison time to sweeten the deal by US. If there's #…

I get why people should not thumbs down and the whole tough guy angle, but I have never heard US putting someone in jail for a merged PR. Many of the big open source projects are american citizen lead and they accept PRs from all around the world.

Tell that to GitHub to force and ban Iranian github repos that were private or gitlab completely non reachable for Iranians due to GCP policies.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by sulam »

gruez wrote: post #51
Navarr wrote: post #22

How does this work considering PHP is heavily made up of code from Zend (which was an Israeli company) Can Iranian-built websites not use PHP?

>Zend (which was an Israeli company) What? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zend_(company) >Zend, formerly Zend Technologies, is a Minneapolis, Minnesota-based software company owned by software developer Perforce. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perforce >Perforce, legally Perforce Software, Inc., is an American developer of software [...]

Really? Did you somehow miss the whole section describing Israeli founders, Israeli VC, and the fact that it has been acquired not once, but twice since founding?

"was" an Israeli company is entirely accurate.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by Minor49er »

Kapura wrote: post #50
mothsonasloth wrote: post #30

This is the problem with the internet now, profile pics, egotistical bio summaries and emojis. It was more fun when it was anonymous and the person you were talking to could have been a 43 year old neo nazi with blue hair, but their code or stuff was good, so you didn't have that getting in the way of you.

"It was more fun when I didn't know I was working with Nazis" is an extraordinarily bad take.

He clearly said it was more fun not knowing the personal details of whoever he was working with online, not that he was ever literally working with Nazis.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by IngvarLynn »

Navarr wrote: post #22

How does this work considering PHP is heavily made up of code from Zend (which was an Israeli company) Can Iranian-built websites not use PHP?

There is no rule of law in dictatorship so your question makes no sense. The proper question would be "What are my chances of being repressed given my connections to the opposion|ruling elites?".

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by josefx »

gruez wrote: post #51
Navarr wrote: post #22

How does this work considering PHP is heavily made up of code from Zend (which was an Israeli company) Can Iranian-built websites not use PHP?

>Zend (which was an Israeli company) What? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zend_(company) >Zend, formerly Zend Technologies, is a Minneapolis, Minnesota-based software company owned by software developer Perforce. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perforce >Perforce, legally Perforce Software, Inc., is an American developer of software [...]

> What?

Probably confusion stemming from one of PHPs well known hebrew identifier names that ended up making some error messages useless: T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM .

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by hinkley »

If this were just an IP problem it would be easy enough to solve, but I don’t think whatever passes for a district attorney in Tehran would be impressed. And as someone else implied: are you willing to stake a life on your solution?

The last time I had a provenance problem with source code (multinational, could not utilize public domain code for liability reasons), I clean-roomed a solution. It took longer to explain why I wanted this to the intended author than it did for him to write it. But I had a knack for filing bug reports such that the maintainer can fix the problem cheaply (same employer, I could not file PRs against OSS, but I could tell them the bug was on line 53 and what input triggered it)

You’d need someone who has read the PR to write tests and/or a spec and for someone else who has not read it to file an equivalent PR.

But I’d want to talk to some Iranian lawyers first. Plural.

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