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Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by squeezingswirls »

collyw wrote: post #4

I like Manjaro and I like the idea of an open source phone, but I was disappointed by the Ubuntu phone after actually buying one. It's basically that "content is king", with the content being apps. Is this going to be the same? (A lot of the apps on the Ubuntu phone were web based rather than native, which is actually a drawback when you don't have an internet connection. There was no way to do offline maps for examp…

> there was no way to do offline maps for example

That's not true, you can use https://open-store.io/app/pure-maps.jonnius

Offline mapping is possible by installing OSM Scout Server https://open-store.io/app/osmscout-server.jonnius

About the apps, you can help developing native apps using https://clickable-ut.dev/en/latest/

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by tjr225 »

josteink wrote: post #42
deepstack wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish PinePhone would partner with Arch or Debian instead. Word. Debian is great! In the past when I see people using Ubuntu, I always wondered why? It is so interesting how people in tech just fall into the fashion trap.

> when I see people using Ubuntu, I always wondered why? As someone (still) using Ubuntu today, I have 1 simple answer: OOB experience. Back in the days, I could insert a Ubuntu live-CD (remember CDs?), and have a fully working system, including proprietary graphics-driver and wifi-firmware. And installing from that Live-CD gave me the same experience once installed. Basically, it was a machine 100% ready to use, wit…

Yep. It's the only distro that works by default on my 2009 Macbook Pro.

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by squeezingswirls »

smoyer wrote: post #38

I've got an (old) Samsung Galaxy S4 that I've stuck with because it suits my needs and it still works well. Knowing that it will eventually die, I guess I have two questions I'd love to have answered by Pinephone owners: 1) Is a Pinephone a viable alternative either iOS or Android? 2) How do you get it connected to carrier X?

Are you running Android in your device? Maybe you could give https://doc.e.foundation/devices/jfltexx/ a try if you want a more private experience.

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by megous »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #32

I see several comments questioning the choice of Manjaro on PinePhone, but as the name suggests it's Community Edition after all; Those who want Manjaro on smartphone, now have a device to develop for . I think, the way Pine64 is pushing these CE devices is smart and definitely a positive step for overall pure Linux smartphone ecosystem. But, I'm also hearing great things about Mobian[1] on PinePhone and AFAIK it's b…

Lot of the projects pinephone depends on are developed just by a bunch of talented individuals. Majority of the PinePhone specific bootloader/firwmare/kernel driver work and upstreaming is done by maybe 3 individuals, neither of whom are associated with any of the distros supported so far, AFAIK. And you can't have a working distro without a working kernel. A lot of value is based on the results of linux-sunxi.org project, and related communities, like lima project, etc. It's FOSS, hey. Everything depends on everything, and it's kind of a hard to support everyone.

I personally wish for a "Linux kernel CE" edition, in the future, being one of those kernel devs. ;)

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by MayeulC »

Foxboron wrote: post #13

Every time the Pine64/Pinephone stuff gets mentioned I go looking for the Arch Linux ARM project mentions, and donation links. Previously they just avoid mentioning this, but most of the Manjaro ARM stuff couldn't happen without the tireless work of the Arch ARM developers. I've had to repeatedly mention they shouldn't remove attribution from PKGBUILDs they take from Arch ARM. https://gitlab.manjaro.org/manjaro-arm/p…

> Every time the Pine64/Pinephone stuff gets mentioned

You probably mean Manjaro/Pinephone or something like this, I initially thought you equated Pinephone with Manjaro. (hint for others: it is not, there are a various other compatible distros). I agree that Arch Arm upstream does a pretty good job, though that packaging job is 70% orthogonal to, say, alpine+postmarketos packaging :)

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by dleslie »

slantyyz wrote: post #54

Does anyone know if you can heavily customize the user interface of the PinePhone? The reason why I'm asking is that I have yet to find a feature phone or smartphone that my father (in his 80s) can use. He basically doesn't want to learn new things, and he's more interested in learning/memorizing repeatable steps than intuiting how to do things by reading text on the screen. All he needs is the ability to make/receiv…

You're not tied to a particular OS, even, so yes.

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by MayeulC »

squeezingswirls wrote: post #63
smoyer wrote: post #38

I've got an (old) Samsung Galaxy S4 that I've stuck with because it suits my needs and it still works well. Knowing that it will eventually die, I guess I have two questions I'd love to have answered by Pinephone owners: 1) Is a Pinephone a viable alternative either iOS or Android? 2) How do you get it connected to carrier X?

Are you running Android in your device? Maybe you could give https://doc.e.foundation/devices/jfltexx/ a try if you want a more private experience.

Or regular upstream https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/jfltexx/

Not sure how /e/ is supposed to be more private yet less open?

I'm using my i9506 (ks01lte) as a daily driver, though I think I'll switch to a i9505 because it has official lineageos support, which means probably less weird SD card bugs.

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by ekianjo »

mikece wrote: post #21
candiddevmike wrote: post #17

I personally would avoid anything Manjaro related due to recurring controversies around the project leadership: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/hxpj87/change_in_man... I wish PinePhone would partner with Arch or Debian instead.

The drama of Manjaro leadership notwithstanding, does the distro work on the phone?

YOu can find more info here: https://boilingsteam.com/the-pinephone-can-it-replace-your-s...

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by syl_sau »

blendergeek wrote: post #43
smoyer wrote: post #38

I've got an (old) Samsung Galaxy S4 that I've stuck with because it suits my needs and it still works well. Knowing that it will eventually die, I guess I have two questions I'd love to have answered by Pinephone owners: 1) Is a Pinephone a viable alternative either iOS or Android? 2) How do you get it connected to carrier X?

Disclaimer: I do not (yet) have my Pinephone. > 1) Is a Pinephone a viable alternative either iOS or Android? A Pinephone will never support all the proprietary apps (Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok, Fortnite, etc). In order to be viable, I would say a phone needs to support phone calls, SMS, MMS, camera, GPS/Navigation, and have a fast and snappy web browser. Currently the Pinephone supports everything except…

> you will not have access to FB Messenger, Whatsapp, Instagram, etc.

Actually you can access Facebook, Instagram and Twitter messages through their respective websites (and you can get notifications from the site if the browser supports it), but no WhatsApp nor Snapchat -- though Anbox might just fix this problem.

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by squeezingswirls »

MayeulC wrote: post #67
squeezingswirls wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you running Android in your device? Maybe you could give https://doc.e.foundation/devices/jfltexx/ a try if you want a more private experience.

Or regular upstream https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/jfltexx/ Not sure how /e/ is supposed to be more private yet less open? I'm using my i9506 (ks01lte) as a daily driver, though I think I'll switch to a i9505 because it has official lineageos support, which means probably less weird SD card bugs.

I mean /e/ compared to Android. LOS is a good option too.
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