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Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

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Post by blaser-waffle »

Timpy wrote: post #48

I always thought Kali wasn't really for daily use. Not a vehicle for every day driving around town, more like a secondary vehicle you only use for work. HiDPI, tool icons, and gnome themes make it seem otherwise. Sure, these things are nice whether you're using it for work or play, but I wonder. Is anybody running kali as their daily driver?

Update for being one of the few non-zsh questions.

IMO there are the young script kiddie types that have it on their main laptop to be cool, but yeah I don't see people using it except for work purposes.

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

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Post by nostoc »

enriquto wrote: post #16
daffy wrote: post #9

One nice thing in zsh is that you can type `/u/lo/b ` and be in `/usr/local/bin`.

Bash does the same thing here, typing tabs instead of slashes. /u lo b same number of keystrokes actually

"bash: /usr/local/bin/: Is a directory"

What to you have in your bashrc to allow cd'ing in directories without typing cd?

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

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Post by enriquto »

nostoc wrote: post #62
enriquto wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bash does the same thing here, typing tabs instead of slashes. /u lo b same number of keystrokes actually

"bash: /usr/local/bin/: Is a directory" What to you have in your bashrc to allow cd'ing in directories without typing cd?

I prefer to type "cd", the directory-as-executable feature is a bit confusing for me.

But you can enable it in bash, the option has the same name as in zsh: autocd. Just run "shopt -s autocd".

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

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Post by lucideer »

Timpy wrote: post #48

I always thought Kali wasn't really for daily use. Not a vehicle for every day driving around town, more like a secondary vehicle you only use for work. HiDPI, tool icons, and gnome themes make it seem otherwise. Sure, these things are nice whether you're using it for work or play, but I wonder. Is anybody running kali as their daily driver?

I'd consider these accessibility features and as such I'd say they're important for any GUI work tool, even if it's not your daily driver.

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

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Post by julianh95 »

Timpy wrote: post #48

I always thought Kali wasn't really for daily use. Not a vehicle for every day driving around town, more like a secondary vehicle you only use for work. HiDPI, tool icons, and gnome themes make it seem otherwise. Sure, these things are nice whether you're using it for work or play, but I wonder. Is anybody running kali as their daily driver?

You definitely shouldn't use it as a daily. However, Offensive Security is trying to make it a smooth experience given that quite a bit of time is spent using it for penetration tests, CTFs, etc in addition to "competition" from ParrotOS. Most folks that I know would switch to it anyway so having it be the default makes it easier.

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

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Post by viro »

DominikD wrote: post #25
ggm wrote: post #8

Fascinating that the conversation goes to zsh over bash. You'd think a decent Bluetooth risk tool was more relevant given the covid19 dependency on more bt always on and so more bt drive-by

People who don't use Kali comment on whether move from one shell to another was right for the Kali users. This drive by commenting is sadly omnipresent in the open source world. OpenBSD uses CVS? They should use git. XServer? Why not Wayland? Oh, libsdl is using Mercurial, but they should totally use git. And on, and on.

umm as a pen tester the move from bash to zsh was the most exciting thing about this update. w ^ to find the wfuzz command I did 2 days ago and didn't take notes on the output is useful as hell.

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

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Post by viro »

aww_dang wrote: post #23

Aren't the people who know and understand the tools they use, the same people who can install security utilities on any distro? What is the purpose of this distro in regards to that?

laziness. well thats at least why I use it.

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

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Post by crims0n »

aww_dang wrote: post #23

Aren't the people who know and understand the tools they use, the same people who can install security utilities on any distro? What is the purpose of this distro in regards to that?

It is meant to be run in a VM. Spin it up, log in as root, and go to work. It keeps your pentest machine separate from your daily driver - which you want to do for a myriad of reasons, not least of which is keeping your personal computer off a network that is actively being attacked.

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

#69

Post by toyg »

sivizius wrote: post #52

Kali Linux still exists? I thought after it was used in so many more or less good films and series it is not cool any more. :D

It's very lively and actually the cancer of certain parts of the internet (like the subreddit dedicated to Virtualbox).

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

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Post by rootbear »

idoubtit wrote: post #11

I think the move of Kali Linux from bash to zsh is sane. I sometimes have to use the default shell of Linux distribution, especially on servers, and my main pain points with bash are: - The history is editable by default. If I move to a previous history line and change it, the old line disappears. Hitting Ctrl-c will remove it from the history. - If I use simultaneous shells (screen, tmux, or several ssh connections)…

This may be an old fashioned way to do it, but I set aside a command by using ^A (or Home) and the entering : and space:

$ : Command that has an error

I can then cd to the right directory, or fix whatever other problem I had, then use up-arrow to get back to the command, remove the : and space and run it.

The : (no op) command is fairly obscure and some of the other suggestions here are probably better.

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