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Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

#61

I don't know if you're genuine or not but the way you wrote this post sounds so utterly inauthentic[0]. You're whimsically sad you can't get more fun money to invest in stock, while the reason that ride sharing is being shut down is because it takes advantage of the lower class it depends on. [0]edit: unauthentic->inauthentic

>Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. [0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

#62
> the rest would have scheduled shifts, and capped hourly earnings.

I don't really understand why this is necessary. Can't there still be flexible arrangements with drivers simply clocking their work and then getting some kind of salary derived from that? Can't they still get paid bonuses for driving in particularly unwanted hours?

Sure, this would be a complex contract, but I don't see how this is impossible. But I'm not a USA citizen so maybe there is something I'm missing.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

#63
We had this same thing happen in Austin when Uber and Lyft pulled out after having a hissy fit about fingerprinting and background checks and not parking in the bus lanes. As soon as they pulled out half a dozen alternatives sprung up that paid better (I always used Ride Austin, a not-for-profit). If you're a rider just take the bus, bike, or get any other cab service (seriously, they all have apps now and they maintain a fleet so drivers don't get stuck with repair bills). If you're a driver it's going to suck for a few weeks, you may have to find other opportunities, but more places will pop up and there will be better competition and better pay pretty quickly if the Austin example holds true.

TL;DR it's easy to flip out because Uber and Lyft are big names, but there are plenty of other good services, just use those instead.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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post #7

So this is basically an admission that the ridesharing business model is not viable without worker exploitation?

The belief that consenting adults who voluntarily apply and work for a company as they choose are being "exploited" speaks volumes about your beliefs of the average person's intelligence and capabilities. Perhaps it is the class of individuals who internalize beliefs of another class of people being effectively brainless cattle who must be shepherded and protected -- perhaps it is they who are actually exploiting workers for their own social and political ends.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

#65

I don't know if you're genuine or not but the way you wrote this post sounds so utterly inauthentic[0]. You're whimsically sad you can't get more fun money to invest in stock, while the reason that ride sharing is being shut down is because it takes advantage of the lower class it depends on. [0]edit: unauthentic->inauthentic

5,000 karma account established in 2017 with a reasonable comment history shares person experience

...attacked as a shill.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

#66
post #7

So this is basically an admission that the ridesharing business model is not viable without worker exploitation?

People freely working is not exploitation. Full time driving jobs already exist if you wanted that instead of freelance rideshare driving.

People freely worked under abusive conditions in factories in the Industrial Revolution before the labour rights movement. No one wants to go back to that.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

#67

I don't know if you're genuine or not but the way you wrote this post sounds so utterly inauthentic[0]. You're whimsically sad you can't get more fun money to invest in stock, while the reason that ride sharing is being shut down is because it takes advantage of the lower class it depends on. [0]edit: unauthentic->inauthentic

If it's genuine this is part of the reason the money earned goes to the floor. Since there's always a lot of people jumping in the service to provide 'supply' that lowers earnings for those that use these services as their only income stream and/or have debt to pay back (to pay back the new vehicle to enable even being on those services).

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

#68

I don't know if you're genuine or not but the way you wrote this post sounds so utterly inauthentic[0]. You're whimsically sad you can't get more fun money to invest in stock, while the reason that ride sharing is being shut down is because it takes advantage of the lower class it depends on. [0]edit: unauthentic->inauthentic

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Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

#69

I don't know if you're genuine or not but the way you wrote this post sounds so utterly inauthentic[0]. You're whimsically sad you can't get more fun money to invest in stock, while the reason that ride sharing is being shut down is because it takes advantage of the lower class it depends on. [0]edit: unauthentic->inauthentic

> You're whimsically sad you can't get more fun money to invest in stock, while the reason that ride sharing is being shut down is because it takes advantage of the lower class it depends on. The American people take advantage of the lower class by tying healthcare to employment, and in an extra-cruel way where less lucrative jobs also provide insurance that is both more expensive day-to-day to the employee AND less…

Great idea, but in the meantime these workers need healthcare.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

#70

I don't know if you're genuine or not but the way you wrote this post sounds so utterly inauthentic[0]. You're whimsically sad you can't get more fun money to invest in stock, while the reason that ride sharing is being shut down is because it takes advantage of the lower class it depends on. [0]edit: unauthentic->inauthentic

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