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Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by jjav »

codetrotter wrote: post #10
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similarly to sibling comment, I just set in mailcap: text/html; elinks -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput

The really annoying thing is that some mail is multipart where the text/plain is just “sorry, your email client does not support html”. Yeah thanks a lot but it does, it’s just I have it set to prefer text/plain, because I don’t want to look at the html dump version unless I have to. If those people had simply sent only text/html and not a useless text/plain that only says that kind of stuff then everything would hav…

That's mildly annoying indeed, but I just press v and select the html version in those cases.

As you say, not mutt's fault.

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by jjav »

codebook wrote: post #44
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similarly to sibling comment, I just set in mailcap: text/html; elinks -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput

I also had that But the experience is way worse than reading email in html format. And these days, almost all emails are in html format with pretty basic text/plain in the form of multiformat. That plain text doesn't have the intention of the composer, for instance, the inline image doesn't show inline and the email context says the figure above . It is not that business form, but some ppl use colorful format to emph…

> It is not that business form, but some ppl use colorful format to emphasize some text, which basically gives same text in the email, which makes the reader (in plain text) easily miss that part while skimming.

I consider that a feature... On some email lists I'm on, there are endless complaints of how some people don't like some elses font/color/size etc. Using mutt I don't see any of that distraction, I just see the text. That's a win in my book.

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by dancek »

feanaro wrote: post #54
res0nat0r wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love absolutely Mutt if it weren't for everyone in the world using html email. I know you can view or strip html emails down to their essentials, but it doesn't render properly enough where I can reply to everything at work and not look like a fool because I'm missing some context. Too bad because Mutt is amazing.

You can just set up Mutt to open HTML mail in Firefox.

A great example of the HN use of the word "just".

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by jjav »

samcheng wrote: post #6

I remember the mind-blowing switch from pine to mutt. Then, a few years later, gmail, which has to be about 20 years old or so. I haven't used much mutt since.

gmail is such a huge regression from mutt (or even pine or elm).

I rank the email experience of gmail on par with /bin/mail. It's that useless.

I use mutt as an IMAP client for gmail when I can, that works mostly ok. At current $DAYJOB they only allow gmail web client which is a complete disaster of unusability.

So I mostly just zoom or slack people since gmail is so useless.

gmail is email written by those who have never used a proper email client and don't really care about email anyway.

(gmail came out in 2004 - got the tshirt from the launch.)

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by carlio »

debaserab2 wrote: post #27
combatentropy wrote: post #21

I sometimes daydream that everyone at work uses Linux in general and a text-based email program in particular. It isn't too farfetched. When email took off, I was in college, and we all used Pine. Anyway, if you email me, it will arrive on my virtual private server, and I will read it with Mutt.

I’ve never been more inclined than now to do the same thing. How do you deal with spam? How do you ensure your emails don’t get junk mailed?

I'd suggest looking into https://mailinabox.email/

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by dmitriid »

res0nat0r wrote: post #48
zadwang wrote: post #35

I use mutt, mbsync, maildrop, and mblaze, mairix, msmtp, oauth2 with gmail. I have local speed, two way sync, customized email filtering, fast searching, vim editing, and multiple machine freedom. I am happy.

I would love absolutely Mutt if it weren't for everyone in the world using html email. I know you can view or strip html emails down to their essentials, but it doesn't render properly enough where I can reply to everything at work and not look like a fool because I'm missing some context. Too bad because Mutt is amazing.

It's going to get worse with Google's AMP Email: https://amp.dev/about/email/

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by type0 »

throwaway_pdp09 wrote: post #56
res0nat0r wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love absolutely Mutt if it weren't for everyone in the world using html email. I know you can view or strip html emails down to their essentials, but it doesn't render properly enough where I can reply to everything at work and not look like a fool because I'm missing some context. Too bad because Mutt is amazing.

I rarely have a problem. I just let the sender know I want plain text and they do it.

People sending html mail are often those who don't know and don't want to know what plain text is.

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by feanaro »

dancek wrote: post #64
feanaro wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can just set up Mutt to open HTML mail in Firefox.

A great example of the HN use of the word "just".

I'm not sure what you are implying. That it is hard? It is only a single line added to the `mailcap` file:

    text/html; firefox '%s' &; test=test -n "$DISPLAY"; needsterminal;
After that's in place, you simply open attachments (via `view-attachments`) and call `view-attach` (usually via a key binding) on the HTML attachment.
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