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Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by M2Ys4U »

nom wrote: post #46

Adjusting prices by demographic is so common in many industries. Charging less for children, families and the elderly is the same thing. Charging less for women in clubs. Same with booking hotels and flights, based on browsing history, IP address, cookies and the extrapolated demographic. Even a repair contractor adjusts his prices up for someone who lives in a mansion with expensive cars in the driveway, and down fo…

> Adjusting prices by demographic is so common in many industries.

And often illegal.

Discrimination based on sex/gender or age is (usually) prohibited in Europe, for example, unless there are very compelling grounds to do so.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by clusterfish »

gambiting wrote: post #52
gkoberger wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn’t you argue that’s what’s happening? As in, would you support a lower rate for people with X years of no crashes? (Meaning teens wouldn’t be eligible because they just started driving)

Sure, in an ideal world an 18 year old who just started driving and a 50 year old who just got their licence should have identical rates, but in practice that's not the case - the older person will have a lower premium despite also having zero experience behind the wheel. Having a clean record is a thing you can work towards and can be rewarded with a lower premium - being older is not.

It does work like this in some places, and younger drivers aren't any better off in terms of pricing, speaking from personal experience. So this is 95% just pricing by age "with extra steps" as they say.

Consider this: if the first accident happens to an average person after 10 years of driving, young people will take a loooong time to build a driving record that can even be considered average let alone good. And you can't start charging higher rates only after the crash, such rates would need to be so high as to be ompletely prohibitive. Bottom line, young people will never be paying as good a price as older people under any system that has a semblance of fairness to it. Sadly.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by NestedLoopGoBrr »

polote wrote: post #48

Tinder has two goals: - make the most money from vulnerable people - make non vulnerable people behave like if they were on a social network Having different price, per geography, gender and age is just a consequence of the first. It is not surprising that you can't see anymore the instagram handles of people on tinder. Instagram is a direct competitor to tinder for most of their users ( the non vulnerable ones). Act…

Tinder removed the IG handles more likely because men were stalking women’s instagrams and it wasn’t immediately obvious connecting to instagram was going to display your username for all to see.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

fimdomeio wrote: post #43
skocznymroczny wrote: post #20

OKCupid also charges men, especially more than women for their premium service. It's common on online dating apps. Not much different than real life... in many clubs women can go inside for free while men have to pay entry ticket fee.

The fact that is common doesn't make it right.

There is no right/wrong here, Tinder is a business, not a public square or a public service, you choose willingly to use their service so they can charge whatever they want, nobody is forcing you to use it.

Just like in a night club or country club, the house is free to set whichever memebership rules it wants, if you don't like them you are free to go somewhere else.

Unlike the jobs market, the dating market and its (discriminatory) dynamics is not something the government could regulate.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by NestedLoopGoBrr »

yladiz wrote: post #28
theelous3 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> fundementaly different services Like what?I went through tinders sales page for their tiers and can't see anything that would offer a different experience based on any demographic: https://www.help.tinder.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004487406-T... I get the feeling you may respond telling me that people over 30 are looking for a different type of relationship, to which I say that no type of relationship has a feasible…

To add to this, as someone who has used the app before I'd be genuinely surprised if the experience they are given was in fact substantially different enough to warrant some people AU$7 while charging others over AU$30 (!!). The paid version allows you to change your swiping location (meaning you can match with someone in a different city), have a few more "super likes", and a couple other features. It's possible the…

As a woman that uses Tinder, I can say first hand that the experience for women on the app is completely different. Paying for Tinder Gold lets you see the likes, infinite swipes, etc. like it does for men, but the value of that data is less useful. I buy Gold because I liked the features nonetheless, but the list of likes is useless - I’m constantly pegged at 9,999+ likes, the list freezes every five seconds, and there’s no meaningful way to sift through it.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by gridlockd »

M2Ys4U wrote: post #61
nom wrote: post #46

Adjusting prices by demographic is so common in many industries. Charging less for children, families and the elderly is the same thing. Charging less for women in clubs. Same with booking hotels and flights, based on browsing history, IP address, cookies and the extrapolated demographic. Even a repair contractor adjusts his prices up for someone who lives in a mansion with expensive cars in the driveway, and down fo…

> Adjusting prices by demographic is so common in many industries. And often illegal. Discrimination based on sex/gender or age is (usually) prohibited in Europe, for example, unless there are very compelling grounds to do so.

The fact that there's a 10:1 ratio of male to female users on dating platforms might be considered "compelling".

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Post by roenxi »

qshqwudhoquc wrote: post #26
skocznymroczny wrote: post #20

OKCupid also charges men, especially more than women for their premium service. It's common on online dating apps. Not much different than real life... in many clubs women can go inside for free while men have to pay entry ticket fee.

My issue with this is that these decisions aren't necessarily being made because of operating costs. It doesn't cost more to host a man than a woman.

Commerce has never been done on the basis of operating costs. Go look at the price difference between a cheap shirt and an expensive shirt. The change in operating costs is nothing compared to the price difference.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by dillonmckay »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #64
fimdomeio wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that is common doesn't make it right.

There is no right/wrong here, Tinder is a business, not a public square or a public service, you choose willingly to use their service so they can charge whatever they want, nobody is forcing you to use it. Just like in a night club or country club, the house is free to set whichever memebership rules it wants, if you don't like them you are free to go somewhere else. Unlike the jobs market, the dating market and its…

So, it is not okay to discriminate by age at a public square?

But, why would Tinder control a public square?

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

M2Ys4U wrote: post #61
nom wrote: post #46

Adjusting prices by demographic is so common in many industries. Charging less for children, families and the elderly is the same thing. Charging less for women in clubs. Same with booking hotels and flights, based on browsing history, IP address, cookies and the extrapolated demographic. Even a repair contractor adjusts his prices up for someone who lives in a mansion with expensive cars in the driveway, and down fo…

> Adjusting prices by demographic is so common in many industries. And often illegal. Discrimination based on sex/gender or age is (usually) prohibited in Europe, for example, unless there are very compelling grounds to do so.

If we reverse the "expensive for older men" and call it "discount for younger men/free for women" is it still discrimination?

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by theelous3 »

EE84M3i wrote: post #22
theelous3 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> fundementaly different services Like what?I went through tinders sales page for their tiers and can't see anything that would offer a different experience based on any demographic: https://www.help.tinder.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004487406-T... I get the feeling you may respond telling me that people over 30 are looking for a different type of relationship, to which I say that no type of relationship has a feasible…

People have wildly different experiences on tinder based on gender and age, among other things. It would follow that they value the premium features differently and be willing to pay more or less for them too. >to which I say that no type of relationship has a feasible monetary induction price I'm not sure what you mean by this.

It doesn't actually follow though does it? Some uber christian 20 y/o girl may want to get married and have kids within the year. Some 46 year old man might just be looking to bone down with his peers.

Someone can use any of those premium features to facilitate any of those possibilities, and more. Having more likes or options to message along with a super-like doesn't mean someone is looking for anything in particular.

It is simply true that some people

> value the premium features differently and be willing to pay more or less for them too.

But that's it. There's nothing about age or whatever in there.

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