Wyze cameras do this too. I never throughly about it put apparently the noise a fire alarm or co alarm makes is standard https://support.wyzecam.com/hc/en-us/articles/360031134712-H...
Amazon Echo as well but I think you have to opt in
Google speakers are listening to more than just voice commands
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We would all be surprised if it turns out that a giant corporation who sells you always-on networked microphones wasn't abusing it in any way, shape or form. Here's a slippery slope for you: 1. "OK Google, order pizza from Sal's." 2. "Broken glass detected in living room. Should I call police?" 3. "The baby has been crying for more than 60 minutes. Do you want assistance?" 4. "Shots fired. Calling 911 now." 2016-2020…
> Watching an unusually well-Foleyed action movie on a good sound system can probably fool any recognition system Google can jam into next year's $150 smart speaker. Sure, but pair that with "Shazam!" style song recognition and now it knows you're watching a movie, and what movie it is, and can more easily filter for false positives there, no?
Maybe I'm watching any one of a billion YouTube videos or livestreams, or a Japanese police drama from the 90s that only exists on DVD - the set of things that may cause a false positive seems almost intractably large and inaccessible.
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#63Too lazy to look it up. Didn't somebody without a pet talk about pet food around some speakers then get ads about it.
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#64How surprised would you be if in 5 years there was a Snowden-type revelation, that yes, the speakers and Facebook/Insta apps, Amazon echo, etc, etc, were listening all the time? Sorry. And that there was a secret court ruling that meant all that data was live-streamed to NSA Utah. Not surprised at all, is the answer.
I'd like to see the calculation of that bandwidth peak.
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What software are you using for object detection? I'd like to extend my Home Assistant setup.
I made a custom component to integrate this object detection lib with pytorch. https://github.com/ultralytics/yolov5 The tensorflow one it comes with didn't work on python 3.8 or on my gpu. I should blog about it.
In case you do, what’s your blog so I can follow?
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What does it matter? The bottom line is that once there’s microphones in your home, Google just has to wait out the normalization of deviance until nobody’s surprised or upset that they transfer everything to their servers for analysis. If they don’t today, they will one day. They don’t have a choice on the matter because it’s a money maker.
Google did this with “we don’t scan your emails for ads”. Initially, 2009 ish, that was a big line a lot of people cared about but years later here we are, Google scanning emails for targeted ads and that fight is over. EDIT: Thanks for the reply exittheone, I see GMail actually stopped this ad scanning practice in 2017[1], likely with google sign in on chrome and so many places it’s very possibly they just don’t tha…
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6603?hl=en
This is most definitely false. Google still states that they do not scan your emails for as targeting.
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Do you want to bet your life on whether someone found that feature idea exciting enough for a promotion project at work? Even if the feature works perfectly, were still talking about (hypothetically, as this isn't a real feature yet) automatically summoning a platoon of people with the de facto legal right to kill you if they send danger which is exactly the reason they were called just because a potentially dangerou…
> the de facto legal right to kill you This seems like the bigger problem. Calling the cops shouldn’t be dangerous. It seems to me that if cops were better behaved a feature that automatically calls them when you might need help would be fantastic. Imagine if Google could detect that you’re alone and choking or having a medical emergency. Woule be cool if it could get you help.
Even if calling them is not dangerous, it seems like it'd have to be extremely reliable to not cause a problem. If a large percentage of people have similar devices, it seems you would have to have a low false positive rate for the police to not be spending an unreasonable amount of time dealing with auto-nuisance calls.
Re: Google speakers are listening to more than just voice commands
#68How surprised would you be if in 5 years there was a Snowden-type revelation, that yes, the speakers and Facebook/Insta apps, Amazon echo, etc, etc, were listening all the time? Sorry. And that there was a secret court ruling that meant all that data was live-streamed to NSA Utah. Not surprised at all, is the answer.
I'd like to see the calculation of that bandwidth peak.
It might not be as high as you think, if they are processing the data and sending a summary over, rather than the raw sound file.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google did this with “we don’t scan your emails for ads”. Initially, 2009 ish, that was a big line a lot of people cared about but years later here we are, Google scanning emails for targeted ads and that fight is over. EDIT: Thanks for the reply exittheone, I see GMail actually stopped this ad scanning practice in 2017[1], likely with google sign in on chrome and so many places it’s very possibly they just don’t tha…
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6603?hl=en This is most definitely false. Google still states that they do not scan your emails for as targeting.
And why would they? The data we provide to Google in myriad ways across numerous devices and services is far more fungible.
Re: Google speakers are listening to more than just voice commands
#70How surprised would you be if in 5 years there was a Snowden-type revelation, that yes, the speakers and Facebook/Insta apps, Amazon echo, etc, etc, were listening all the time? Sorry. And that there was a secret court ruling that meant all that data was live-streamed to NSA Utah. Not surprised at all, is the answer.
Some are for certain. The Samsung TV's for example explicitly do it and they have advised you not to have private conversations where the TV can hear you.