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IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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A giant corporation buys a Silicon Valley company, the result is generally carnage. The old-boy marketing-driven process-heavy big company will roll out decisions like a bowling ball careening across a cafeteria, knocking over tables and chairs and sending people running for cover. Since big companies are driven by managers not engineers, and the managers are always, always from the bigger company, the decisions are…

"driven by managers not engineers"

Yeah, uh to assume that Engineers have some special managerial ability that 'managers' do not is the wrong take.

Management is management. Some good, some bad.

We can be cynical, but without knowing the details of these layoffs, we shouldn't assume anything.

One of the advantages of M&A is ostensible synergy across many groups, for example, RedHat is unlikely going to need maintainers of its HR Portal, which will likely be rolled into the one from HQ. And probably some execs will be without jobs.

It's possible that the layoff was in the works otherwise, or that they were literally made at the recommendation of outgoing people who were unable/unwilling to do a re-structure at the time.

Right from the article: "The tricky thing is, IBM and Red Hat both have NC-based operations and a rather large number of workers there. It’s somewhat of a business hub. But we also know that IBM does not need two HR departments, two marketing departments, etc. Managers are sort of converging in duties, conflicting in terms of roles, overlapping in the workflow sense and so on."

Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It says in your own link - 401k, which is a type of pension.

401ks don't have vesting though. At worst the match might be in December so people who are laid off mid-year lose half a year of matching.

I had employer match with a 3 year vesting period at one place. I've never had anyone else do more than 12 months, and not everyone did that. The matching is for the paycheck you just paid me for work I already did. Why is it tied to the end of the year? As an employee retention hook it's a lousy idea. It's too small, and lacks all of the dopamine of watching a stock price seesaw up and down, wondering what it'll be worth when you can finally spend it.

Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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Interesting, I just saw a posting for Red Hat. Doesn't IBM have an automated HR system now? Perhaps that's not functioning as well as they'd hoped.

They could be gutting all the current employees to make room for new people hired at lower pay.

Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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A giant corporation buys a Silicon Valley company, the result is generally carnage. The old-boy marketing-driven process-heavy big company will roll out decisions like a bowling ball careening across a cafeteria, knocking over tables and chairs and sending people running for cover. Since big companies are driven by managers not engineers, and the managers are always, always from the bigger company, the decisions are…

> A giant corporation buys a Silicon Valley company I don't know what you mean by 'giant corporation' and 'Silicon Valley company' - do you think these groups are distinct? RedHat isn't a 'Silicon Valley company' as far as I know. It's from the east coast - North Carolina isn't it? The Carolinas seem as far as you can get from Silicon Valley, culturally and geographically. And many Silicon Valley companies are tradit…

North Carolina in general is spectrum opposite from Silicon Valley save a few islands of prosperity such as the so called triangle of which Raleigh, where red hat was based, is a corner.

Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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A giant corporation buys a Silicon Valley company, the result is generally carnage. The old-boy marketing-driven process-heavy big company will roll out decisions like a bowling ball careening across a cafeteria, knocking over tables and chairs and sending people running for cover. Since big companies are driven by managers not engineers, and the managers are always, always from the bigger company, the decisions are…

I agree about the carnage part, but it happens regardless of the type of companies involved. There's a push to not have duplicate functions, products, etc. And people making decisions without having all the information.

Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what does that even mean? Oracle is a traditional Silicon Valley company. But presumably that's not what they mean either?

Enough with the digressions! An open-source-foundational company with roots in the microcomputer revolution, vs IBM? Is there anybody who doesn't see the difference? And no, IBM did not invent the microcomputer revolution - far, far from it. They put out an expensive iron boat anchor using other people's chips and designs that saddled the industry with obsolete choices for a decade. Just like you'd expect from a gian…

You tryin' to say open source? Just say that. You created the digression.

You: Oh you got a pet! Is it a dog or an apple?

Him: Apples aren't really house pets.

You: Oh brother, are you going to pretend nobody knows the difference between dogs & cats?

Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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A giant corporation buys a Silicon Valley company, the result is generally carnage. The old-boy marketing-driven process-heavy big company will roll out decisions like a bowling ball careening across a cafeteria, knocking over tables and chairs and sending people running for cover. Since big companies are driven by managers not engineers, and the managers are always, always from the bigger company, the decisions are…

> old-boy marketing-driven process-heavy big company

You mean Red Hat?

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