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Unwoke – Jobboard for people that just want to work and not be activists

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Re: Unwoke – Jobboard for people that just want to work and not be activists

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Post by cheesecracker »

jbwashington wrote: post #60
cheesecracker wrote: post #46

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Why on earth should it not be OK for black people to use the service? And what is so "white" about it? Because black people are supposed to be activists and believe in identity politics? I follow plenty of black people on Twitter who don't belong to that crowd. Have you ever wondered if is ok black people to use Hacker News? After all, it was created by white people? (I don't even know the skin color of the creators…

I’ve wondered if it’s ok for black people to use HN, I’ve also wondered if it’s even ok for black people to be in tech. The term “woke” was coined by black people for the purpose of empowerment and self-liberation, co-opted by white liberals to feel like they’re doing something, and then I see this site, which is supposed to be the antithesis of “woke” corporate culture. Black people have no choice to interpret this…

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Re: Unwoke – Jobboard for people that just want to work and not be activists

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Post by cheesecracker »

cheesecracker wrote: post #61
jbwashington wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve wondered if it’s ok for black people to use HN, I’ve also wondered if it’s even ok for black people to be in tech. The term “woke” was coined by black people for the purpose of empowerment and self-liberation, co-opted by white liberals to feel like they’re doing something, and then I see this site, which is supposed to be the antithesis of “woke” corporate culture. Black people have no choice to interpret this…

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Re: Unwoke – Jobboard for people that just want to work and not be activists

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Post by alexryan »

dragonwriter wrote: post #18

Huh. “unwoke" — rejects a particular viewpoint associated with the left. “Free-thinking and freedom loving” — while most people probably self-identity that way, currently these are actively used mostly by the right as distinguishing descriptions. “Not...further a radical agenda” — again, negative on a description used mostly for the left (“reactionary” would be for the right) Sounds like, despite claiming to be about…

You might be too young to know this. But there was a time, not long ago, when bringing politics into the workplace was considered to be a really bad idea because it divides and thus weakens the team and hinders our ability to work together to achieve the common mission of contribution that we presumably all signed up for. This healthy culture has been largely destroyed by a toxic culture of conflict coming from the indoctrination camps that we used to call universities. I’m uncertain why we allowed this to happen but I know for sure that most people were happier when we were united as one team seeking to use our creative energy to contribute rather than looking for enemies to attack and destroy.

Re: Unwoke – Jobboard for people that just want to work and not be activists

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Post by dang »

cheesecracker wrote: post #61
jbwashington wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve wondered if it’s ok for black people to use HN, I’ve also wondered if it’s even ok for black people to be in tech. The term “woke” was coined by black people for the purpose of empowerment and self-liberation, co-opted by white liberals to feel like they’re doing something, and then I see this site, which is supposed to be the antithesis of “woke” corporate culture. Black people have no choice to interpret this…

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Crossing into personal attack will get you banned here. Using HN for ideological battle is not ok either. Please don't post like this again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: actually, it looks like you've been banned repeatedly for doing this on HN. That's not cool, so I've banned this account as well. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.

Re: Unwoke – Jobboard for people that just want to work and not be activists

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Post by sdfkkikig »

dang wrote: post #66
cheesecracker wrote: post #61

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Crossing into personal attack will get you banned here. Using HN for ideological battle is not ok either. Please don't post like this again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: actually, it looks like you've been banned repeatedly for doing this on HN. That's not cool, so I've banned this account as well. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. If you don't want to be banned, you're…

Yeah sorry I am not creating accounts to break the rules.

I simply don't understand you. In my opinion what I wrote was neither a personal attack (I called his argument ridiculous, not him - and I was referring to his notion that it might not be OK for black people to use HN), nor an ideological battle. While the topic is an ideological battleground, which has a real effect on the tech industry, my stance in this particular discussion would be that people simply should be allowed to work without having to be involved in such culture wars (I also did not create that website unwoke.hr, I only posted it to HN). If he wants to be "woke" and do activism and so on, I have nothing against it, at least not in the context of this discussion. I just don't want to be affected by it. I don't want to talk him out of it or anything - so where exactly is your problem?

I don't see the point of you banning my account for a discussion in a thread that has already been flagged. Obviously only people who want it would see the further discussion.

I'm really not sure what you would consider an appropriate discussion of the topic? Obviously it is ideologically charged, but it IS a job board for the tech industry, and it is a subject that affects many who work in tech.

Ironic that you banned me, because I had just been wondering that for all its flaws, at least HN is open to access for everybody. You can create an account in minutes, and there are no profile pics (so less danger of racism, for example). Except apparently not. (Also while it is quick to create accounts, I suppose you have automatic filters in place, so in effect it is not free for everyone. But still - it could have been a refuge from the totalitarian social networks).

Re: Unwoke – Jobboard for people that just want to work and not be activists

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Post by dang »

sdfkkikig wrote: post #67
dang wrote: post #66

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Crossing into personal attack will get you banned here. Using HN for ideological battle is not ok either. Please don't post like this again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: actually, it looks like you've been banned repeatedly for doing this on HN. That's not cool, so I've banned this account as well. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. If you don't want to be banned, you're…

Yeah sorry I am not creating accounts to break the rules. I simply don't understand you. In my opinion what I wrote was neither a personal attack (I called his argument ridiculous, not him - and I was referring to his notion that it might not be OK for black people to use HN), nor an ideological battle. While the topic is an ideological battleground, which has a real effect on the tech industry, my stance in this par…

"Ridiculous. To be honest I don't even feel like convincing you. If you feel like that maybe just let it be. And sorry, there definitely is no. Have you even? Why don't you? Try to understand? Personally I don't care about your."

That is dripping with internet snark and hostility and certainly crosses into personal attack. Also, the racebaiting aspect of what you posted is unwelcome here.

I banned your account for a repeated pattern, not one thread - as I explained.

Re: Unwoke – Jobboard for people that just want to work and not be activists

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Post by sdfkkikig »

dang wrote: post #68
sdfkkikig wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah sorry I am not creating accounts to break the rules. I simply don't understand you. In my opinion what I wrote was neither a personal attack (I called his argument ridiculous, not him - and I was referring to his notion that it might not be OK for black people to use HN), nor an ideological battle. While the topic is an ideological battleground, which has a real effect on the tech industry, my stance in this par…

" Ridiculous. To be honest I don't even feel like convincing you. If you feel like that maybe just let it be. And sorry, there definitely is no. Have you even? Why don't you? Try to understand? Personally I don't care about your. " That is dripping with internet snark and hostility and certainly crosses into personal attack. Also, the racebaiting aspect of what you posted is unwelcome here. I banned your account for…

Racebaiting? I did not bring up race. Woke ideology also tries to exploit race, but that is just incidental, and irrelevant to the concept of not turning ones job into a platform for activism. I don't care about anybody's race, it's not my fault if others do. To be honest I tried to hold back, because I actually think the person wondering if HN is OK for Black people is racist. But I didn't accuse them of that. I tried to avoid turning it into a discussion about "woke ideology" - the point is should people be allowed to do their job without having to subscribe to a specific ideology and being forced to engage in activism.

If I don't feel like convincing somebody, it is hostile? But I guess if I kept trying to convince somebody, it would be "ideological battles"? And personal feelings - I don't think you "personally care" about everything anybody else wrecks their brain about?

As I said, sorry, I simply don't understand you and I evaluate things differently than you. As such, I don't think I can adhere to your rules in the way you want, as I don't know how.

I also don't agree with your diagnosis of a repeat pattern. Your guessing of my motives, for which you tend to ban me, is completely off base. The only repeat pattern is of you (apparently) misinterpreting what I write.

Re: Unwoke – Jobboard for people that just want to work and not be activists

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Post by JToland »

What I find amusing is that y'all are assuming all employers on this site are conservative owned and as such, they don't want to hire liberal employees. But I don't think that's the case. I think what they want is to hire people of any political persuasion who want to work. You can be an activist on your own time. We honestly don't seem to have people who understand how working for an income works.
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