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These petty BOM reduction exercises from Tim Cook's Apple to claw back single dollars on products that are $1000 are starting to get egregious.
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Well... I have an iPhone7 with an unreliable worn-out Lightning port sitting next to me, so I can kind of see the value in having the cable wear out rather than the socket in the phone...
Try cleaning it. I’ve had dust accumulate in a lightning port making it unreliable. I thought the port had failed for the longest time but it was just dust. And I don’t think lightning cables wearing out has anything to do with the standard and everything to do with Apples poor lightning cables. I also can’t see how people think USBC is more robust. There is a tiny little wafer in the port... I get nervous just looki…
God forbid people acknowledge Apple’s proprietary design is better...
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I would have agreed if you had said Micro-USB. I own tens of those with no USB-C charger in sight.
Hopefully you don't have micro-USB chargers , but USB chargers and micro-usb cables. I don't use Apple products, but reducing waste like this is great. Most people should have buckets of chargers by now, and even if they lack the cable, it's better to buy when needed.
Yes, I should have clarified that. I don't have any USB-C cables either, for that matter. My chargers only put out 18 W at the most, so things like PD (Power Delivery) wouldn't work anyway.
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> Many consumers likely already have a USB-C charger, so splitting it up gives people flexibility. Sure, but if they do have a USB C charger, is it the right voltage?
Voltage is standardized
Are you saying lightning changes this?
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[With regards to waste;] 3rd party chargers have been ridiculously unreliable with the lightning connector. No idea what is so hard to get right, but I've never had a ~$10 cable last more than a year, sometimes just a couple months or a week. I'm not particularly rough with them, just plug them in a couple times a day at my desk or bed. Sometimes my girlfriend's iPhone uses my charger as well, which can seem to exped…
A lot of the time when people have trouble with charging cables, it's caused by pocket lint in the phone's charging port, so maybe try that? I use a bent paperclip, but I'm sure there are more gentle ways.
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> They also reduce e-waste. They do. But please note that Apple does this after years of pressure from EU and are one of the last companies to do so. So please don't make them into some kind of champions for the environment.
> But please note that Apple does this after years of pressure from EU and are one of the last companies to do so. I have no idea what you’re talking about. When exactly did the EU ask Apple not to include the charger in the box? I’m very doubtful of this claim.
"Since 2009, the European Commission has been trying to convince tech companies to adopt a single charging method for our gadgets, primarily smartphones, in a quest to reduce the waste that comes when every new gadget you buy includes yet another AC adapter in the box. Now, Apple’s Lightning connector may be at risk."
https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/17/21070848/eu-apple-europea...
These petty BOM reduction exercises from Tim Cook's Apple to claw back single dollars on products that are $1000 are starting to get egregious.
At this point it’s a rumor and we don’t know the prices for the next batch of phones yet. Hopefully we see some reduced prices regardless, but it is hard to get worked up over rumors like this when I’m not lacking in charging equipment or headphones. The inclusions made sense, until they didn’t, now it’s just extra crap to fill a spares drawer and pass off to others.
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> But please note that Apple does this after years of pressure from EU and are one of the last companies to do so. I have no idea what you’re talking about. When exactly did the EU ask Apple not to include the charger in the box? I’m very doubtful of this claim.
If you Google "EU charger" this The Verge article will be the top result: "Since 2009, the European Commission has been trying to convince tech companies to adopt a single charging method for our gadgets, primarily smartphones, in a quest to reduce the waste that comes when every new gadget you buy includes yet another AC adapter in the box. Now, Apple’s Lightning connector may be at risk." https://www.theverge.com/2…
Makes sense! Many consumers likely already have a USB-C charger, so splitting it up gives people flexibility. I will be interested to see how they communicate this to prevent first time iPhone users being left without a charging cable/power brick.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/12/05/kuo-iphone-without-ligh...