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Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#61
The "120hz dance" reminds me of my "drag my 2 external monitors around in System Preferences every time I dock my MacBook, otherwise they switch places"-dance.

It's amazing that all these display bugs still exist when Apple has presumably invested so much into their $6000 Pro Display.

Dear Apple: Why not spend a little time making the software work, too?

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#62
post #34

It's frustrating that consumer Hi-DPI display development has completely stalled in the last five years. As mentioned in the article, macOS works best using true 2x integer scaling. Using 2x scaling, a 4k monitor will result in an equivalent workspace to a 1080p display—unusable for productivity and development. A superior option is iMac/LG 5k display results which nets an equivalent workspace of 1440p. The only opti…

> an equivalent workspace to a 1080p display—unusable for productivity and development. I have to disagree here. I use (and have used) a 1080p display for years and don’t feel the need for anything larger. That might be an artifact of my early years on 80x25 character displays, though.

> 80x25 character displays

I am sure Doom and other great pieces of software were written on one of those.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#63
"Now, it might be tempting to use, for example, 1.5× scaling. That would give you an equivalent of 2560×1440 logical pixels, which, you might think, is much better. This is not how you should use it! The idea of a 4k monitor is NOT to get more pixels but to get the pixel-perfect, high-density UI rendering. Otherwise, a normal 1440p display would work better. A simple rule to remember: pixel alignment outweighs everything else. 1440p display is better at displaying 1440p content than 2160p display is at it."

I like this idea in theory, but I disagree with it in practice.

I use two vertical 4k displays (specifically: Dell U2720Q) and I use them at the native resolution.

This is because I want IntelliJ to take up an entire vertical display where I can see a lot of code without having to scroll. I can also divide the other display into two halves (horizontal line, one window on top and one on bottom - I use a third party app from the macOS app store called magnet for this).

I can appreciate the smooth fonts, but the screen real estate is more valuable.

I guess all of this is to say that the best option for me would be an 8k display at 2x scaling. A 4k display at 1080p though isn't worth the trade-off (I'll take lower quality text for the additional space).

They do say right after that that using the 4k display at native is also fine, so maybe it's not an issue?

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#65
post #36

Disappointed that he didn't mention pixel-perfect programming fonts (e.g. proggy) which offer high-density text on low-resolution monitors while not looking nearly as bad as his Consolas example. These fonts make a huge difference imo.

I also recommend them for the same reason. I use terminus. It looks great whatever the size.

When writing prose, I prefer serif fonts such as go mono, at a bigger size.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#66
I'm currently working from home on a 14-year-old ViewSonic VA902b.

19", 1280x1024, 75 Hz.

It was a freebie from a folded startup.

This exactly matches monitors I used in the more distant past, like NCD X/Window terminals: 19", 1280x1024.

This form factor basically determines what is the ideal pixel size for most work.

Basically, 1280 is about the right number of pixels for the angle of vision subtended by the display when viewed at the intended distance.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#67

Great theory. I'd definitely love to have 4k 120hz displays, but until I'm not broke, I'll stick with my old low-res monitors I picked up for $20 apiece. They suck, but not everyone has the money for $500 panels, let alone the insanely-priced four-figure ones the author recommends. I'll probably just suffer through another decade of garbage text until they get cheap.

electronic waste recycling facility? More like christmas in my opinion.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#68
post #30

I have the ultrafine 5k. 27 glorious inches @ 218ppi. Not only does this provide a colossal amount of real estate for crisp text (I run with no scaling, which requires good eyesight), but combined with a macbook pro, provides a near perfect computing solution. One cable provides video, audio, usb hub, webcam and power. Two monitors might be better, but I find leaving the laptop screen open on a stand works well. One…

> I run with no scaling, which requires good eyesight

I have been on the fence about upgrading to a large hi-res screen specifically with the aim of maximizing screen real estate, which effectively means little scaling. However I couldn't find much info about running hi-res monitors with little or no scaling. Could you share your experience and/or post a screenshot, just to get an idea of how big UIs end up being?

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#69
I came to the comments expecting lots of (irrelevant, I know) complaints about the painfully bright yellow background of the article - but nobody has mentioned it yet. Is it serving different colours to different people, or am I unusually sensitive to this colour? I found the page unreadable without switching to reader mode.
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