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Operating a Tor Relay
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Re: Operating a Tor Relay
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not just in Germany. US providers can also be forced to hand over data to be used in cases against others. It's just usually not done with a raid since providers will turn over data when asked.
Just for context: This is relativly new in Germany. In 2017 there was a change which has as consequences - witnesses _have to_ appear in person if requested (by police or DA) - witnesses _have to_ make statements regarding the case at hand This is quite a nice tool if you lack moral. You might request the suspect to appear as a witness and try to leverage the new requirements to make the suspect reveal damaging infor…
>This is quite a nice tool if you lack moral. You might request the suspect to appear as a witness and try to leverage the new requirements to make the suspect reveal damaging information.
Germany doesn't have protections against self-incrimination? Or does this rely on the suspect being too cooperative for his own good?
Re: Operating a Tor Relay
#63I often wonder what incentives drive people to run TOR exit nodes; the risk even if remote of getting raided is enough to stop most I'd imagine. Got me thinking on the legal implications and interestingly TOR doesn't recommend running an exit node at home - Found this FAQ quite interesting https://2019.www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq.html.en Particularly ~ Has anyone ever been sued or prosecuted for running Tor?…
They can potentially collect NSA zero days
Re: Operating a Tor Relay
#64Why you need balls of steel to operate a tor exit node: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2009-Septemb... Why you need balls of steel to operate a Tor exit node By calumog I became interested in Tor in the spring of 2007 after reading about the situation in Burma and felt that I would like to do something, anything, to help. As a geek and lover of the internet it seemed the best thing I could do was to…
This HN post is about relays not exits.
Re: Operating a Tor Relay
#65I have a lot of bandwidth but don't want to spend money on hosting. Has anyone successfully hosted on rasberry pi ?
I used to run a relay at home until two things happened. 1) my bank blocked my home internet as it was a listed tor relay node even though it wasn’t an exit node. I just told my wife to use the app and disconnect from WiFi so that wasn’t a big issue. 2) getting called to security at my company as they had some abuse from tor nodes and saw I used a “tor node to vpn to work” and it was pretty brutal. Nothing came of it (because I did nothing wrong) but I obviously stopped running a relay. Just a warning.
Re: Operating a Tor Relay
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am running a couple of relays. There are no costs if your servers have spare resources available. The tor daemon barely eats anything, and you can always limit how much bandwidth it's allowed to use. Please spend half an hour and set up a relay if you can, it doesn't help as much as running an exit node, but it's still something.
I know you get a lot of hassle/blocking if you're a Tor exit node - do you get some of the same problems being a middle relay, just by virtue of appearing in lists of tor nodes?
You do - there are a few sites that have blocked me, but it's fairly limited.
Re: Operating a Tor Relay
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am running a couple of relays. There are no costs if your servers have spare resources available. The tor daemon barely eats anything, and you can always limit how much bandwidth it's allowed to use. Please spend half an hour and set up a relay if you can, it doesn't help as much as running an exit node, but it's still something.
Which country do you operate in? One issue in some of the Western world is that your IP becomes blacklisted by some websites. There's also the issue that some ISPs cut you off for running a relay (yes, not an exit node).
I've been running a relay for ~9 months, and have been blocked by a few websites, but it's fairly limited (I honestly can't remember the last time I ran into an issue).
Re: Operating a Tor Relay
#68I often wonder what incentives drive people to run TOR exit nodes; the risk even if remote of getting raided is enough to stop most I'd imagine. Got me thinking on the legal implications and interestingly TOR doesn't recommend running an exit node at home - Found this FAQ quite interesting https://2019.www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq.html.en Particularly ~ Has anyone ever been sued or prosecuted for running Tor?…
One reason would be to sniff cleartext traffic and extract useful info from it.
Almost everything is HTTPS at this point anyways though, so that's not as big an issue now iirc.
I guess the packet headers are still plaintext though, so there is that.
Re: Operating a Tor Relay
#69Why you need balls of steel to operate a tor exit node: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2009-Septemb... Why you need balls of steel to operate a Tor exit node By calumog I became interested in Tor in the spring of 2007 after reading about the situation in Burma and felt that I would like to do something, anything, to help. As a geek and lover of the internet it seemed the best thing I could do was to…
This HN post is about relays not exits.
There was a sibling comment about i3wm as well. I thought this was an interesting read, and an important point for anyone who reads the OP and misses the warnings about exit nodes.
Re: Operating a Tor Relay
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
You would be surprised by who uses it. Iran and other places have a serious need for tor. https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-bridge-table.html
Yes, many places have a serious need for Tor. But the bridge stats are misleading because bridges are exclusivity for circumventing censorship. The stats for tor relays [0] are different: United States 418568 (20.37 %) Russia 335382 (16.32 %) Germany 172251 (8.38 %) France 92643 (4.51 %) Netherlands 76496 (3.72 %) United Kingdom 68674 (3.34 %) Indonesia 61917 (3.01 %) Ukraine 50331 (2.45 %) Canada 48246 (2.35 %) Indi…
I personally don't trust Five Eyes any more than any other country.