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University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

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Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

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I looked at their CS degree. Just one semester of Calculus?

Link: https://www.uopeople.edu/programs/cs/degrees/computer-scienc...

Their data structures & algorithms course: https://my.uopeople.edu/mod/book/view.php?id=45606&chapterid...

I'm more worried about the the apparent lack of basic algorithms (Dijkstra? DP?) than not having more semesters of calculus.

Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

#62

An interesting question would be whether governments and teachers agreements accept this program. Many of those have rules about how if you have a Masters, you earn X more and you can just keep earning more the more degrees you get. $4000 lets the payback period Be quite fast.

The school is accredited by the DEAC which is recognized by the US DoE. It's national accreditation which is less prestigious and not always "accepted" by regional accredited schools.

https://ope.ed.gov/dapip/#/institution-profile/233675

The Master's in education is recognized by International Baccalaureate (IB) which is a well regarded program. I'm not sure of the exact relationship as the program is new. (It just started this year.) However, it likely wouldn't be accepted by the various state education bodies for teaching licensing. (This is a guess based on my past experience in education.)

Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

#63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with plagiarism isn't best characterized as some sort of power struggle between teachers and students via bullshit assignments. The purpose of learning to write is to make yourself a formidable communicator. If you can independently analyze a new topic to learn something new and apply the results of those learnings towards a particular goal, you can be amazingly effective in everything you aim for. But if…

>Plagiarizing some work doesn't really hurt the work, it hurts you. and a job well done is its own reward right? i think it's very pretentious to say that to a person who's attending school in order to improve their lot in life (because credentials count for so much); that what's more important than the credential is some abstract notion of improvement. you might as well cast it in terms of sin and salvation.

> in order to improve their lot in life (because credentials count for so much);

Those credentials only matter insofar as they describe the likely caliber of the alumni that come from that particular school. Being a terrible student isn't going to help the value of your degree a whole lot...

Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

#64

I can't wait for a fully online without human University. I'd like speed running to be a thing

You can kinda do that already. In my first semester at WGU I went through about 20 classes. It’s competency based and you can complete classes as soon as you master the material.

> In my first semester at WGU I went through about 20 classes.

Woah, that sounds insane at first, but I'm assuming some of these might be like history 101? Could you elaborate on which program and which classes this was?

Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

#65

The first question I always ask of these weird online universities is, are they regionally accredited? National accreditation is not really a high bar and isn’t considered competitive; all legitimate institutions of higher learning should qualify for and receive regional accreditation from an appropriate authority before considering such study in one’s best interest. This online learning site is eligible for regional…

So what makes regional accreditation so great? Do other countries have it? Why can’t a major regional body go national? Is it the law? It all sounds like a scam from that to textbooks.

To somewhat oversimplify, the regional accreditation bodies (about a half dozen of them) are older and better established than the national accreditation bodies. They generally have 100+ year histories, accredit all of the major universities within their jurisdiction, and in general have acquired a great deal of respect throughout US academia.

National accreditation boards in general, and especially those that are not field-specific, are seen as being less rigorous, faster to accredit, and more profit- or prestige-motivated than the regional accreditation boards. Most are relatively new and some of the most prominent (e.g. ACICS) have been involved in specific controversy over the quality of their work. Because the regional accrediting boards are older and better respected, the first question about a university that advertises a national accreditation tends to be "why aren't they regionally accredited?". It is both symptom and cause of this difference that most for-profit and otherwise "questionable" institutions are nationally accredited and not regionally accredited.

While some national accreditation bodies are considered rigorous and respectable (e.g. ABET), they tend to be field-specific (in the case of ABET, engineering) and often require regional accreditation as a prerequisite to accredit a university, as they consider regional accreditation to be the indication that the broader learning institution is able to provide a quality program. Usually specific departments or colleges of a university will go to these types of accreditation boards to add a credential to specific programs (e.g. "ABET accredited computer science program") above and beyond the university already having a regional accreditation.

Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

#66
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Current student in the CS program. Feel free to ask questions.

As both the OP and you are new accounts, I will ask the first question I can think of: is this a marketing move to post it here? Also, I watched the "Who is behind it" video and it did not answer the question, who is actually behind this? Is it a non-profit? Is it owned by by someone? Who founded it when?

>is this a marketing move to post it here?

Nope, I had found the university before but ignored it. Then was looking for cheap math degrees from the recent math books thread today, and came across this school again. Figured I'd post it, but I have no interest in attending there, as they don't have any programs I care about

Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

#68

I looked at their CS degree. Just one semester of Calculus?

I have been programming professionally for 15+ years, working in web and app development, system administration, designing custom language extensions, image processing, protein folding, and sundry other tasks.

I can count on one hand the number of times I needed any calculus beyond first semester, and those were for very specific scientific domains.

Now statistics and linear algebra, on the other hand...

Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

#69

This seems too good to be true and I’m trying to figure out the catch.

It's true. The current "catch" is that the school is nationally accredited. This means you can encounter some issue getting your degree recognized (e.g., some grad schools in the US will not consider nationally accredited degrees, some schools only accept their credits on a case-by-case basis, and so on). However, if you know that going into it, you know the primary shortcoming. (Fortunately, I have a regionally accr…

Ah I see! I didn’t realize this accreditation distinction you’re making. My googling from here makes much more sense. Thanks.
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