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Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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Best guess: Jim Keller came in with guns blazing about how Moore's law is not dead and if you believe so you're stupid. He was a comp-architecture guy counting on the device/physics folks to deliver. They didn't, while Jim put his reputation on the line. He probably resigned in disappointment and/or protest. - Moore's law is dead at the physics level. - Exponential tech progress doesn't stop but it won't be in the fo…

What is the AGI problem? I've never heard of it.

Artificial General Intelligence.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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Every time I criticise Intel, Or more like pointing out facts , supporters will always use Jim Keller as the excuse, as if he was the silver bullet. Intel's struggle has nothing to do with is processors' design. Sunny Cove and Willow Cove ( aka Icelake and TigerLake ) were close to design complete before Jim Keller joined. Intel's problem is with their manufacturing, both technical and economical. And Jim Keller is n…

Intel's problem is that they fired expensive, older American workers and replaced them with H1B contractors. There's a video on AdoredTV about the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agxSclh27uo

Keeping up with the mood of the country (US) I want to call these comments out as racist propaganda. The casual reference to H1B workers(90% Indians) as root cause of problems in American tech companies is getting old.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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Intel's problem is that they fired expensive, older American workers and replaced them with H1B contractors. There's a video on AdoredTV about the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agxSclh27uo

Keeping up with the mood of the country (US) I want to call these comments out as racist propaganda. The casual reference to H1B workers(90% Indians) as root cause of problems in American tech companies is getting old.

Often the problem isn’t nation of origin, it’s the nature of the training given from one generation to the next and knowledge transfer.

My father used to work in Hughes in some areas that required American citizens by US law; he regularly told stories of someone in a department retiring before replacements had been hired for knowledge transfer, causing lost time and knowledge.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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Jim’s talk with Lex Friedman was quite amazing. Highly recommend listening- https://youtu.be/Nb2tebYAaOA

> If you constantly unpacked everything for deeper understanding, you're never going to get anything done. If you don't unpack understanding when you need to, you'll do the wrong thing. I really liked that quote. It's a great talk indeed.

"Explore Vs Exploit Dilemma"

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intel's problem is that they fired expensive, older American workers and replaced them with H1B contractors. There's a video on AdoredTV about the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agxSclh27uo

Keeping up with the mood of the country (US) I want to call these comments out as racist propaganda. The casual reference to H1B workers(90% Indians) as root cause of problems in American tech companies is getting old.

The mood of the country is racist propaganda

I mean a lot of things are obvious, why pretend they are not

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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Intel's problem is that they fired expensive, older American workers and replaced them with H1B contractors. There's a video on AdoredTV about the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agxSclh27uo

Keeping up with the mood of the country (US) I want to call these comments out as racist propaganda. The casual reference to H1B workers(90% Indians) as root cause of problems in American tech companies is getting old.

It’s not about race—it’s about a shitty corporate culture. Within Intel there are full-time employees (blue badges) and contractors (green badges). Intel has shifted towards hiring more green badges while paying them less, offering them fewer benefits, and in general treating them worse in comparison to the full-time blue badges. And yes, many green badges are working for Intel under H1B visas. Because of the poor working conditions, there isn’t a great incentive for green badges to be doing their best work. Meanwhile, blue badges become proportionally fewer in number within the company.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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Every time I criticise Intel, Or more like pointing out facts , supporters will always use Jim Keller as the excuse, as if he was the silver bullet. Intel's struggle has nothing to do with is processors' design. Sunny Cove and Willow Cove ( aka Icelake and TigerLake ) were close to design complete before Jim Keller joined. Intel's problem is with their manufacturing, both technical and economical. And Jim Keller is n…

Process didn’t cause all the security holes implemented as performance hacks, architecture did. AMD caught up through architecture, process was just icing on the cake.

No one thought of speculative execution and hypertheading as performance hacks until the last few years. They were brilliant techniques. They still are, they just were found to have a cost. They are still used now but more carefully.

Intel Management Engine and SGX on the other hand, are basically user-hostile parts of the hardware, with some bugs mixed in.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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They have been working on the 10nm manufacturing process for ages and it's still not completely finished. That gave AMD huge opportunity to catch up (which it did).

Nothing stops Intel manufacturing their designs with third parties. Yet they don't. Either it isn't worth it (too much coupling between fab and designs - not the right abstractions), or institutional inertia stops them doing it.

I'm not a hardware engineer/cpu designer/electrical engineer, but my understanding is that designing high end cpus requires engineering and designing towards the specific manufacturing process of the fabs you're using. Even if intel did decide to, I don't think they could just send their designs to tsmc/global foundries or what have you.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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My guess is he is going back to Apple.

He's been at Apple before. Doubt he'll go back to a place he's been before unless he thinks the landscape has changed enough he can have a really big impact again. I don't think thats the case at Apple. No - I think he'll go to Nvidia, because he hasn't been there before, hasn't really worked on GPU's before, and because I think GPU's could gain a lot of performance by having someone look at optimizing the big pictur…

> Doubt he'll go back to a place he's been before unless he thinks the landscape has changed enough he can have a really big impact again

He did two separate stints at AMD, and if the rumors of Apple switching the Mac to the A-series are true (which they probably are) then there will be some very interesting problems to solve over the next few years.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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Bloomberg has the following commentary:

“Keller’s departure is a big deal and suggests that whatever he was implementing at Intel was not working or the old Intel guard did not want to implement it,” Hans Mosesmann, an analyst at Rosenblatt Securities, wrote in a note to investors. “The net of this situation for us is that Intel’s processor and process node roadmaps are going to be more in flux or broken than even we had expected.”

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