While I have no interest in breeding, if I did have kids I would let them choose their own interests rather than forcing mine onto them.
Breeding? Was that really necessary? :-)
I’m a Developer. I Won’t Teach My Kids to Code, and Neither Should You (2018)
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#62> and Neither Should You Don’t get the point of this part
clickbait is the point ;)
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#63Re: I’m a Developer. I Won’t Teach My Kids to Code, and Neither Should You (2018)
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think programming should enter a kids learning environment around the same time and priority as a second language. How would someone know whether to consider it, if not exposed to it at all? Most people in the English-speaking western world won't make a vast amount of use of that second language. Some will though, and the rest of us will appreciate that the training we did get helps us see things from a different p…
> I think programming should enter a kids learning environment around the same time and priority as a second language. For a lot of people, than means learning programming before learning english. Which is incredibly counter productive. It's like learning maths without pen and paper. Sure you can do it, but I wouldn't want to. Besides, there are only a limited number of hours in the day. Energy and motivation are als…
> Better be sequencial. And prioritize.
This appears to run counter to all educational programs, everywhere.
I'll listen to your theories on why programming is unimportant after the world has accepted your theories on only learning one thing at a time, I guess.
> Like I said ...
That's introductory teaching right there. You're simply quibbling about methods.
> It's hard to learn a language by yourself unless you travel abroad, while learning programming alone is easy.
Not really, not if nobody ever introduced you to the fact that programming exists, and held your hand as you dipped your toes in.
Maybe it was easy for you, as a self-motivated hacker type, that doesn't mean everyone is like that (even those who end up in the industry, doing perfectly well).
> Software is just regular life, automated and faster.
Nope.
Re: I’m a Developer. I Won’t Teach My Kids to Code, and Neither Should You (2018)
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think programming should enter a kids learning environment around the same time and priority as a second language. How would someone know whether to consider it, if not exposed to it at all? Most people in the English-speaking western world won't make a vast amount of use of that second language. Some will though, and the rest of us will appreciate that the training we did get helps us see things from a different p…
Languages can start very young though. Locally I'm familiar with a lot of families of mixed-nationality. In my own case my partner's native language is Finnish and mine English; our child grew up hearing/understanding both, and now speaks both of them to the appropriate parent. (It's quite fascinating to see that play out, we were walking in the street recently and somebody stopped to ask me a question. He butted in…
True, I meant at about the time languages are often introduced in schools, which tends to be a little later.
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#66I went through an attempt to teach my son (10 at the time) some basic programming principles and he was completely disinterested. I am of the opinion that I am not going to force the topic on him, so I left it alone and didn't pressure him. In the last couple years since then, he has completely blown me away with his programming (mostly logic) capabilities that he has learned from games like Scrap Mechanic and StormWorks.
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#67Pushing things to children to be learned is not efficient.
You can try but what goes into one ear leaves the other ear.
My approach: wake the curiosity (for example by playing games on itch.io and showing a tiny glimpse of the possibility to change a game). Then carefully steer. Let yourself be pulled by the curiosity of the child.
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#68I would, were I going to have kids. "while these products may teach kids specific coding languages, they actually have very little to do with the work of creating software." Yes, and learning to read has little to do with the dramatic structures of high literature, but without the one you're going to struggle to express the other. This article comes across as attention-seeking contrarianism.
Similarly, children learn fluency in arithmetic first before they introspect more deeply into their mathematical activity.
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#69I don't have kids but I never understood why some parents think that their kids have to learn about their passion, specially at such young ages. I understand this in countries where prospects are poor and your best option is stick to the family business but this is something else with different ramifications.
I'd let my kid learn about coding if he/she asks for it and is curious, otherwise I'd never try to shove it. Let kids be kids and if they become interested then be happy to be their personal teacher.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s a good point. It also shows that those who are worried about everyone learning to code, and our job market subsequently becoming saturated, is rather a needless worry. Sure some saturation will occur, but furthering your point, just because most can read and write doesn’t mean they’ll all become professional writers.
what worries me is the code-monkey idea behind everyone can/need to code. I don't want coding to become the blue-collar skill of the next decade.
It is already a blue-collar skill for 3/4 of people who code.