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Study of the effect of Vitamin D, Magnesium and Vitamin B12 on Covid-19 patients

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Re: Study of the effect of Vitamin D, Magnesium and Vitamin B12 on Covid-19 patients

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However, taking 3 vitamins is almost entirely harmless.

Vitamin overdoses can be serious in the worst cases. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis_A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis_D

No one is suggesting an overdose though. In the amount in the study it is harmless.

Re: Study of the effect of Vitamin D, Magnesium and Vitamin B12 on Covid-19 patients

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> Since taking a basic multi-vitamin is good anyway.... Could you elaborate on that? I thought that taking vitamin supplements without a recommendation from a doctor is just a way to have very expensive piss. Most of the things that get in, are removed from the body without being absorbed.

Americans have the most expensive piss in the world. Yes, unless you have good reason to think you have a deficiency, supplements are a waste of time and money. And even if you do have reason to think you might have a deficiency there are often better (usually dietary) ways to address it.

Americans have expensive piss because of the expensive pharmacological drugs you take. Vitamins are very cheap.

Re: Study of the effect of Vitamin D, Magnesium and Vitamin B12 on Covid-19 patients

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Was this known early on about COVID? Early on in the lockdown I noticed that these vitamins were among the kind of weird items completely cleared out of stores. People were very selective... initially all FHD laptops and Chromebooks were gone, along with power strips, ibuprofen, hair clippers, etc.

Chromebooks are good for a lot of things (especially entertaining young kids) and are cheap. I find the quality to be much better than kid tablets which are terribly glitchy. A Windows laptop with only 2 GB of RAM (shocked you could still get that little) is like $400 and much larger than a Chromebook.

Powerstrips are necessary for makeshift home offices which are now everywhere. Hairclippers are important for people who regularly like haircuts. I usually go months, but know plenty of people who go weekly or bi-monthly.

Even without research saying vitamins have an impact on this disease, I think people would be grabbing anything with the potential to help (vitamins and certain medicines).

Re: Study of the effect of Vitamin D, Magnesium and Vitamin B12 on Covid-19 patients

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Perhaps Vitamin D status is just an indicator of adequate sunshine on the skin. This would explain why people with low vitamin D are more susceptible, yet supplementation with Vitamin D is ineffective.

I've seen two theories floated: 1. Vitamin D as a side effect of sun exposure is not itself the important indicator. Instead, some other biological response increases immune response simultaneously. Hence, D supplementation is itself copying the wrong response. 2. Vitamin D deficiency is caused by illness, hence it actually doesn't affect mortality and the relationship is not casual.

My money is on 1. Vitamin D deficiency is caused by lack of sunlight. I'm skeptical of doctors telling me to avoid the sun and take a pill instead.

Re: Study of the effect of Vitamin D, Magnesium and Vitamin B12 on Covid-19 patients

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Presumably it's relatively easy for a lab to run a panel of tests on me and say "you're deficient in X, Y, Z; try eating more A B C; spend 30mins extra a week outside; drink less alcohol". How easy is it too get such tests (in UK), I'm surprised we don't seem to have anything like this as part of our health system. I've had blood pressure and height/weight taken a couple of times (I'm middle aged). But that's about a…

Just measuring those 4 costs 83€ in a laboratory in Vienna. And there are more measurements one should probably take! And you need to test them more than once to see if supplementation works and you are not getting too much. That's not cheap...

I had a load of blood tests done in the uk and the health insurance company were charged over £1000. I couldn’t believe it!

Re: Study of the effect of Vitamin D, Magnesium and Vitamin B12 on Covid-19 patients

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Vitamin D deficiency is very common especially in people who spend their daytime hours inside and also in dark skinned people living in northern latitudes. In the UK doctors recommend everyone takes a vitamin D supplement in the winter.

I've never heard this, where is it recommended?

My Doctor told me. Also see the NHS page https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vitamins-and-minerals/vitamin-....

Re: Study of the effect of Vitamin D, Magnesium and Vitamin B12 on Covid-19 patients

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N=43 (17 given vitamins vs 26 not) Highlights: "Significantly fewer DMB patients than controls required initiation of oxygen therapy subsequently throughout their hospitalization (17.6% vs 61.5%, P=0.006)." "DMB combination in older COVID-19 patients was associated with a significant reduction in proportion of patients with clinical deterioration requiring oxygen support and/or intensive care support. This study supp…

> Since taking a basic multi-vitamin is good anyway, it seems wise to do that. There is no evidence that taking a basic mulit-vitamin has any benefit for average people. Depending on the composition of vitamins it can be harmful [1]. [1] https://www.cochrane.org/CD007176/LIVER_antioxidant-suppleme...

I should have been more specific on location and vitamin. The UK government recommends everyone in the UK take daily supplements of Vitamin D during half of the year due to low sun exposure. It was a typo to say "multi-vitamin".

Re: Study of the effect of Vitamin D, Magnesium and Vitamin B12 on Covid-19 patients

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Many things are almost entirely harmless, but before recommending you do them anyway, you probably want to look at whether there's any point. Turning round in a circle three times before you leave the house is almost entirely harmless, and there's no evidence that doesn't stop you getting coronavirus...

Turning round in a circle three times also doesn't improve your health in general. Getting the right vitamins does improve your health.

Getting too much of many vitamins can harm your health though.

Re: Study of the effect of Vitamin D, Magnesium and Vitamin B12 on Covid-19 patients

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Many are toxic (vitamin D included) in unsuitable amounts, that’s probably too strong of a statement.

The study mentions 1,000 IU D3 dosage. A quick google turns up a rough figure of 60,000 IU "daily for multiple months" can become toxic. You're probably right, most things taken at 100x the normal dose for long period of time are toxic. (Water included)

The largest dosage of D3 I can find on Amazon is 5000 IU in a 240 capsule bottle. To take 60000 IU, you'd have to take a dozen capsules daily, getting a new bottle every 20 days, probably multiple times.

While possible, it does seem unlikely.

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