Yay let's protect looters pillagers and scum!
Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests
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Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests
#62This is great for some situations. However, my personal policy is to upload my protest content to Google Photos asap (if appropriate). This makes sure your content is off your device if your phone gets confiscated AND it provides (be it thin) layer of authenticity/validation of the content.
Google Photos isn't going to provide you with any authenticity claims, and metadata gets scrambled by both their "high quality" and "original" settings.
If you want to make sure the actual, original image gets stored safely on another device automatically, use SyncThing or Resilio Sync.
Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests
#63The protests were sparked by the lack of accountability of the police resulting in police brutality. The violent people among the protesters are subject to the same incentives. The more they expect to be held accountable, the more likely they will refrain from violence. Anonymizing photos of the violent ones is therefore likely to support their actions by making accountability less likely. To scrub ethically, limit i…
The more that protestors refrain from violent property destruction, the less likely it becomes that the three cops who were accessories in the murder of George Floyd get charges brought against them. Burning down one precinct got one cop charged (albeit with a 3rd degree); I would really love to see the other three charged, even if it requires some anonymous protestors to light up three more precincts. I'd gladly tra…
Ah justice.
It is better that ten innocent persons suffer than that one guilty escape.
-- Bizzaro William BlackstoneRe: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m reminded of a reddit thread a while back about the US government paying a large sum to create an “unblur” function for photoshop. Someone in the comments was able to rotate and flip a photo and use the photoshop blur tool to effectively undo a blur for free. Perhaps it’s better to remove the section of photo with a person’s face instead? Or draw a shape over their face and flatten the image? It seems to me as lon…
Blurring isn't that good at destroying information, I think we mostly use it because it's the best looking censoring attempt. I would pixelate the faces to be just 4x4 giant pixels. It destroys nearly as much information as blacking them out while still not disrupting the image too much
I would guess that pixelisation for videos rather than pictures probably reveals more information the longer the video.
Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many organizers of protests in Furguson, peaceful or otherwise, have since been found murdered in ways that suggest they were literally hunted down and killed for their involvement. Multiple have been found shot through the head in burned out cars to destroy all evidence. If they broke the law it still does not merit being executed in the street. ( https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/puzzling-number-men-tie... ) In…
For those who do not click through to the article: “Police say that there is no evidence the deaths have anything to do with the protests”. From my time in Portland, working at the courthouse as a court clerk during the Occupy movement, when hundreds of transient “protesters” camped out in the park, it is not surprising that some of those folks would OD or end up dead for reasons entirely not related to protesting bu…
Why would the police say otherwise? Nice critical thinking.
Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests
#66The protests were sparked by the lack of accountability of the police resulting in police brutality. The violent people among the protesters are subject to the same incentives. The more they expect to be held accountable, the more likely they will refrain from violence. Anonymizing photos of the violent ones is therefore likely to support their actions by making accountability less likely. To scrub ethically, limit i…
> The more they expect to be held accountable, the more likely they will refrain from violence.
The thing is people are already being held accountable for their skin tone, and the likelihood of changing your behavior when you have lived your entire life in an environment of constant oppression for fear of being identified in a protest is marginal, specially during catharsis, otherwise you wouldn't see for instance people burning police cars in front of a camera.
Keep in mind also that many (most?) of these "violent protestors" are simply reacting against violent cops in a power trip. I can't say I wouldn't react violently against a cop intentionally running over me and others with its SUV, but I can say that I would be thankful if my face was anonymized no matter how I reacted.
Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree, and I'd go a step further and say that if you destroy evidence of someone burning my city down or looting, you're an accomplice to that crime.
What if you stop an EMT from checking the pulse of somebody who your co-worker has been choking to death for minutes? Does that make you an accomplice, too? If your city charged these cops justly then nobody would be burning it down; cure your disease and the symptoms will go away.
Yup, I'd love if we were able to be a unified front and collectively say the mayhem will not stop until all four involved are charged. And if they're not convicted... 1992 will look like a joke.
Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
For those who do not click through to the article: “Police say that there is no evidence the deaths have anything to do with the protests”. From my time in Portland, working at the courthouse as a court clerk during the Occupy movement, when hundreds of transient “protesters” camped out in the park, it is not surprising that some of those folks would OD or end up dead for reasons entirely not related to protesting bu…
Why would the police say otherwise? Nice critical thinking.
Does anybody have any evidence they are connected? I’m not saying thy are or aren’t, but it’s at least worth noting what the police say.
Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Camera serial numbers. If you ever have your camera stolen, you can put the serial number into Stolen Camera Finder. It will show you the images uploaded to the Internet with your camera’s serial number so you can recover it. https://www.stolencamerafinder.com
Is this data included in iPhone photos? I don't think so.
iPhone metadata includes several fingerprints that can be used to differentiate between different devices, including a serial number, uptime in seconds, and shutter release count (depending on the model of iPhone you have).
(source: me examining as many different iPhone models and instances to build deduping heuristics for PhotoStructure)
Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests
#70While I can't make useful comments on protests or strong anonymity, wrt photo metadata, I can say that I scrub metadata from photos that leave my possession, as a matter of course, using 'exiftool'.
Here is how you read the existing metadata:
exiftool -a -u -g1 IMG_0708.JPG | more
exiftool -all= IMG_0708.JPG