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Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

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This is a great article, the kind of stuff I find interesting on HN. Some of the "old school" web style clashes with my aesthetic sensibilities these days -- a lot of words to say I find it somewhat ugly! -- but I miss its hobbyist, non-commercial aspect. A lot of hobby style content I find interesting has moved to YouTube or Facebook these days, and everyone who's been reading HN is aware of the lack of control auth…

try http://danyk.cz/index_en.html that is it

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

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I like the use of human navigation and curation in discovering the small web. It feels more organic, more transparent, and less prone to manipulation than AI driven search engines (Google) or aggregators (Facebook).

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

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This is a great post and makes me miss this type of content. I created a subreddit recently to help with the discovery problem and posted it on HN earlier this week. Show HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23287286 Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/hnblogs/ It’s been going well so far, only a small solution to a big problem, but it’s been fun to discover a lot of interesting blogs from people in this communit…

Thank you for making this! I joined as well.

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

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post #28

there's also pubnix (public unix-like servers), gopher, and a new protocol called gemini (which adds simple links and viewer-owned formatting to to gopher). i think there's certainly something to the idea behind more restrictions, with just enough rather than plenty. i almost want to give myself nothing but wikipedia, api docs, and “small web” and pubnix. i'm not sure that i can give up hn or its ilk (but the ratio o…

Yes, I'm discovering the newer pubnix now (only knew of sdf.org previously). Looks interesting, if a little overkill for what I'm looking for. Glad they exist though. You can perhaps try a week of _mostly_ limiting yourself to those and see how it goes? I personally do a mix of the "normal" web and more niche stuff out there.

Yes, I just signed up on the Mare Serenitatis Circumlunar Corporate Republic earlier this week. I intended to keep my gemini/gopher pages updated daily but now is a good time to update them some more!

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

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post #42

I like this article, and I also like hand typing HTML and CSS. But coding is not for everyone. What we need is a better Wordpress, so ordinary people can publish their own website. It has to look good, perform well and be secure, but most importantly publishing content should be quick and easy.

I think writing some basic HTML is not hard, what's hard is everything else around hosting a web site properly nowadays. (and is where Wordpress wins users, I think)

I have non-tech-savvy family who has started content web sites over 20 years ago, by writing some basic HTML, and uses FTP to upload HTML files. It's a mental model that's easily understood by someone who can operate Windows. He went on to maintain the site for the next 20 years and it worked fine.

In the last couple of years I did a big migration for his site and moved it to a markdown based CMS (PicoCMS in PHP) and he's been happy with it -- having a web editor (and learning markdown, which was easy) and not have to FTP.

The thing is, it took work to set all that up (on my end, that he doesn't see). I got a Digital Ocean server, installed a bunch of stuff around PHP, wrote some custom plugins for the CMS, etc.

After having done that 3-4 years ago, I realized the more modern, ideal, alternative is to have a Git repo of markdown files, and a Netlify setup (or another similar service to Netlify) where check-ins are automatically deployed.

The problem then is this -- Git workflows are way, way too difficult for non-tech folks to understand. We're not even talking about command line or desktop git clients; even asking someone to use Github (or Gitlab) to edit markdown files to update their site is not an easy mental model to wrap around (if you're not a coder).

I think the most ideal setup, this "better Wordpress" you mention, would be to have a web UI to edit markdown files, backed by a git repo, hooked up with a Netlify-like service. I thought about working on that as a project; but it would be one that relies on using Github and Netlify as key pieces and I'm not even sure Netlify allows a 3rd party to develop apps that end up creating Netlify sites on behalf of other customers, which means I'd have to build out the full Netlify deploy flow and I'm really not in the business of doing that.

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

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If you're interested in recent innovations on this front: (rather than just retreading the same Web as before) * Beaker ( https://beakerbrowser.com ) the peer-to-peer browser just released their beta release - and it has some exciting features. Particularly the built-in editor, meaning you can edit, serve and read your pages all from the browser. (Blogging in Beaker is as simple as visiting: hyper://a8e9bd0f4df60ed52…

Any interest in breaking fraidycat out into an app you can self-host and visit via the browser? I'd love to be able to use it from any device via a browser, and have the hosted version be the single source of truth.

Yes - I was resisting - but now I quite agree. Follow this issue: https://github.com/kickscondor/fraidycat/issues/17

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

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If you're interested in recent innovations on this front: (rather than just retreading the same Web as before) * Beaker ( https://beakerbrowser.com ) the peer-to-peer browser just released their beta release - and it has some exciting features. Particularly the built-in editor, meaning you can edit, serve and read your pages all from the browser. (Blogging in Beaker is as simple as visiting: hyper://a8e9bd0f4df60ed52…

I'm not sure I understand the special fish or the Tiddlywikis - what are they? I clicked around, but I don't get it.

Fraidyc.at is very cool though - I remember seeing that a while back and think I'll likely end up using it at some point when I have some time to play with it.

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

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If you're interested in recent innovations on this front: (rather than just retreading the same Web as before) * Beaker ( https://beakerbrowser.com ) the peer-to-peer browser just released their beta release - and it has some exciting features. Particularly the built-in editor, meaning you can edit, serve and read your pages all from the browser. (Blogging in Beaker is as simple as visiting: hyper://a8e9bd0f4df60ed52…

I'm not sure I understand the special fish or the Tiddlywikis - what are they? I clicked around, but I don't get it. Fraidyc.at is very cool though - I remember seeing that a while back and think I'll likely end up using it at some point when I have some time to play with it.

Hi zalberico, I'm h0p3. I can't say I get it either. My wiki is a place to store stuff and to tell myself linked stories. Maybe it is a hypertext castle, a rabbithole, a garden, a mind map, an exobrain, a Zettelkasten, an existential mirror or conduit. Despite significant effort, I'm not sure how to describe it well enough. It's a site I like to see. It's where I do muh thinkin, I tellyawhat.

Also, Fraidyc.at works with Tiddlywikis.

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