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It's not hurting the whole world equally. It's been far worse for countries peopled with and led by idiots, like the USA. As long as this goes on it benefits China very greatly. We've already seen a huge shift away from the idea of American global leadership.
What an unbelievably low effort comment. >It's been far worse for countries peopled with and led by idiots, like the USA. Ranked next to Western European countries, the US ranks at the bottom of worst effected. The worst effected country is Belgium, followed by France, Italy, the UK, Sweden, and so on. As far as CFR, the US is about 1/3 or Belgium, and about 1/2 of the Netherlands. Among western liberal democracies,…
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#63I appreciate that there’s probably a lot I don’t know or understand about the national security aspects of this but it seems wrong to not share as much information as possible with as many researchers as possible in order to help as many as people as possible. Protecting security interests is one thing but this press release specifically mentions protecting intellectual property and that seems kind of tone deaf. I al…
Anytime the CCP does something bad, there's always someone like you to downplay it in the comments...
Re: The FBI investigating hacking of Covid research by “PRC-affiliated cyber actors”
#64I appreciate that there’s probably a lot I don’t know or understand about the national security aspects of this but it seems wrong to not share as much information as possible with as many researchers as possible in order to help as many as people as possible. Protecting security interests is one thing but this press release specifically mentions protecting intellectual property and that seems kind of tone deaf. I al…
Anytime the CCP does something bad, there's always someone like you to downplay it in the comments...
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What an unbelievably low effort comment. >It's been far worse for countries peopled with and led by idiots, like the USA. Ranked next to Western European countries, the US ranks at the bottom of worst effected. The worst effected country is Belgium, followed by France, Italy, the UK, Sweden, and so on. As far as CFR, the US is about 1/3 or Belgium, and about 1/2 of the Netherlands. Among western liberal democracies,…
US is 9/10 on the graph of worst 10. Scroll down past the top 10 worst countries, to see all the countries with lower death rate.
I was replying to this:
>It's been far worse for countries peopled with and led by idiots, like the USA.
Maybe this person means that the majority of western europe as well as The US is peopled with and led by idiots, but it seems much more likely that they are just incredibly misinformed.
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Anytime the CCP does something bad, there's always someone like you to downplay it in the comments...
And there's always 100 with extremely selective outrage. We're hacking them, they're hacking us, yawn. We hacked Angela Merkel's phone, even. This is normal low level stuff.
For example, it would be big news for the US to have been caught hacking Huawei, but, the CCP does this all the time to US companies.
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Anytime the CCP does something bad, there's always someone like you to downplay it in the comments...
And anytime there’s someone trying to give a different perspective on the situation, there’s always someone who points out the political context. Sometimes having these conflicting opinions is conducive for good discussion and reducing echo chambers.
Yes, the Chinese government hacking into scientific organizations of other countries has political implications. In fact, they are probably the most significant implications, so it's correct to discuss them every time.
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And there's always 100 with extremely selective outrage. We're hacking them, they're hacking us, yawn. We hacked Angela Merkel's phone, even. This is normal low level stuff.
I think the difference is that the West is engaging in surveillance and not sabotage. If the CCP was found to contaminate or corrupt data, that is a far step above Western norms. Also, the West mostly focuses on international relations and national security concerns, whereas the CCP also participates in economic sabotage and IP transfer. For example, it would be big news for the US to have been caught hacking Huawei,…
Second off.. aside from the total lack of evidence, why would the Chinese be interested in sabotage here? American discovery of a vaccine means they can rip it off, they're definitely not gonna be paying anyone for it. If we're selling it at exorbitant prices while they give it away practically for free to African countries, that's a huge win for them. Plus, there's the whole taking care of their people thing.
Sabotage just gets in the way, nobody cares who invented it 'first'.
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#69Just for additional context several super computing sites in Europe were attacked a few weeks ago and are still down, among them PizDaint at CSCS, which ranks 6th in the world, several super computing sites in Germany (FZ Juelich) and so on. I think no-one wishes this to turn into a kinetic war, but for all we know besides the economic warfare that has been going on for quite some time, this feels like we are in an a…
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And there's always 100 with extremely selective outrage. We're hacking them, they're hacking us, yawn. We hacked Angela Merkel's phone, even. This is normal low level stuff.
I think the difference is that the West is engaging in surveillance and not sabotage. If the CCP was found to contaminate or corrupt data, that is a far step above Western norms. Also, the West mostly focuses on international relations and national security concerns, whereas the CCP also participates in economic sabotage and IP transfer. For example, it would be big news for the US to have been caught hacking Huawei,…
1. Stuxnet.
2. What makes you think this is not surveillance?
3. What makes you certain that CIA black budgets are not spent on sabotage? They don't exactly let anyone audit them...