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Re: Wanna Do Business in Pyongyang? Call Alejandro Cao de Benós

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Post by mc32 » Thu, May 07, 2020, 1:26 PM UTC

jacobush wrote: post #59

9nGQluzmnq3M wrote: post #53

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Eritrea is right up there as well, but they don't have nukes, so nobody cares. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Eritrea

On the other hand, should the stars align so that anyone cares, Eritrea is open to foreign intervention. Libya cancelled its nuclear program in the early 21st century and welcomed UN inspections. Then an international alliance force removed Gaddafi from power and he was killed. I am sure would-be-dictators all over the world are taking note - if you have nukes, you don't face invasion.

Although he was a bad guy, doublecrossing him was a terrible choice and we’re feeling the consequences of that hubris.

That said what keeps the west from invading NKorea aren’t the nukes. It’s the katyusha and other conventional armament that would rain down on Seoul a few Kms across the border.

Re: Wanna Do Business in Pyongyang? Call Alejandro Cao de Benós

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Post by shadowprofile77 » Thu, May 07, 2020, 1:26 PM UTC

Ididntdothis wrote: post #40

tptacek wrote: post #30

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We have firsthand accounts of the abuse of North Korean citizens.

And pictures.

I have no doubt that there's rampant human rights abuse in NK but where have you seen photos of their abuse? I'd imagine they'd be very careful about that.

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Post by Ididntdothis » Thu, May 07, 2020, 2:31 PM UTC

shadowprofile77 wrote: post #62

Ididntdothis wrote: post #40

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And pictures.

I have no doubt that there's rampant human rights abuse in NK but where have you seen photos of their abuse? I'd imagine they'd be very careful about that.

There are satellite pictures of the camps and I remember seeing cell phone picture of the inside. That together with the very consistent descriptions of people who have escaped from there should be enough.

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Post by jacobush » Thu, May 07, 2020, 3:27 PM UTC

mc32 wrote: post #61

jacobush wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, should the stars align so that anyone cares, Eritrea is open to foreign intervention. Libya cancelled its nuclear program in the early 21st century and welcomed UN inspections. Then an international alliance force removed Gaddafi from power and he was killed. I am sure would-be-dictators all over the world are taking note - if you have nukes, you don't face invasion.

Although he was a bad guy, doublecrossing him was a terrible choice and we’re feeling the consequences of that hubris. That said what keeps the west from invading NKorea aren’t the nukes. It’s the katyusha and other conventional armament that would rain down on Seoul a few Kms across the border.

I actually believe the nukes are a great deterrent for common people until they are used. Then people will figure out that NKs tiny nukes are toys

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Post by pvg » Thu, May 07, 2020, 6:07 PM UTC

shadowprofile77 wrote: post #62

Ididntdothis wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And pictures.

I have no doubt that there's rampant human rights abuse in NK but where have you seen photos of their abuse? I'd imagine they'd be very careful about that.

where have you seen photos of their abuse?

There have been pictures, even cellphone video of things like public executions. Here's one recent report but people have been escaping the place and bringing evidence of abuse out for years.

https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-north-korea-public-execu...