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Moloch is free. :-)
Well, Moloch is free now. DARPA had to make a lot of sacrifices to make that happen, though.
Fun fact, Moloch was initially created with funding from DARPA's famous Cyber Fast Track program! It's great to see that Moloch is still going strong since ~2013. There is some previous discussion of Moloch when it was released in this older thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20586005
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Well, Moloch is free now. DARPA had to make a lot of sacrifices to make that happen, though.
They do an amazing job keeping it secret too. Can't even find them on the contributor list https://github.com/aol/moloch/graphs/contributors
The amount of professional-grade hand-wringing virtue-signaling in this comment section makes me feel ill. Why get bent out of shape over the name of a software project? It's virtually a meaningless factor in day-to-day life. What about hearing phrases "Sacrificing a Chicken to Moloch," the "spirit cooking" culture and related symbolism rampant in elite political circles? Shouldn't we be more interested in that? Lots…
A lot of people do care about what things (living or not) are named and even how, sometimes and attach a lot of emotional value to it for a good reason.
Quoting Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_naming#Principles
- They strategically distinguish the product from its competitors by conveying its unique positioning.
- They hold appeal for the product’s target audience.
- They imply or evoke a salient brand attribute, quality or benefit.
- They allow companies to bond with their customers to create loyalty.
- They have a symbolic association that fortifies the image of a company or a product to the consumers.
- They help motivate customers to buy the product.
I'm sorry but claiming that an uncomfortable discussion on a project's name is not the response one wants to see is exactly what turns this into an echo chamber? To be noted how discussion on a product's technical merits isn't mutually exclusive to discussion on its naming. Both could easily be had, and both have their places, because I don't particularly think either is off-topic. In fact, a previous news.yc thread on this product brought up a similar line of discussion. I guess one could argue the discussion is counter-productive in a technical forum, but I don't think one should avoid it just because... unless the community rules explicitly state so. Technical people aren't robots, at least not yet.
Not the greatest choice of name: Moloch[a] (also Molech, Mollok, Milcom, or Malcam) is the biblical name of a Canaanite god associated with child sacrifice, through fire or war. From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch
Anyone who works on Linux probably knows that sometime you need to sacrifice a child...
The amount of professional-grade hand-wringing virtue-signaling in this comment section makes me feel ill. Why get bent out of shape over the name of a software project? It's virtually a meaningless factor in day-to-day life. What about hearing phrases "Sacrificing a Chicken to Moloch," the "spirit cooking" culture and related symbolism rampant in elite political circles? Shouldn't we be more interested in that? Lots…
Preach Brother! Moloch is a serious open source project, run by serious people who care about network security. They published their code under an open source license, showing off just how confident they are that it is solid. You can use this project to inspect packets on your network, you can learn how they built it and become a valuable network security engineer with a job somewhere finding people trying to hack in…
Then I see projects like this, or Jaeger/OpenZipkin, or Chaos Monkey, and I'm simply inspired. Much like listening to a killer record.
I don't spend time feeling sorry for myself because an ancient, somewhat esoteric proper noun was used to describe the project.
Not the greatest choice of name: Moloch[a] (also Molech, Mollok, Milcom, or Malcam) is the biblical name of a Canaanite god associated with child sacrifice, through fire or war. From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch
I think this is a bit distracting. It's an ancient name. Probably a better paragraph to fixate on would be: > Moloch has been used figuratively in English literature from John Milton's Paradise Lost (1667) to Allen Ginsberg's "Howl" (1955), to refer to a person or thing demanding or requiring a very costly sacrifice. I mean a project called Zeus would hardly founder on it's namesakes fetish for turning into a bull an…