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Re: New Yorkers consider relocating post coronavirus

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Post by _hardwaregeek »

joyj2nd wrote: post #55
_hardwaregeek wrote: post #45

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I'm a native New Yorker with all the chauvinism that comes with it, but I didn't find Seattle that bad! The weather is no worse than New York's brutal humidity in the summer. The food isn't that bad. Sure the Asian food is thoroughly mediocre compared to New York's, but that's mostly cause New York has great Asian food. The seafood is wonderful too. Service wasn't that bad either—I suspect that's very subjective. Sur…

"New York's brutal humidity in the summer. " Dude, either I have been away too long from NYC or you have not lived in hot humid places.

New York isn't as bad as say, Houston or SE Asia, but the subway platforms can get pretty bad: https://ny.curbed.com/2018/8/10/17674900/nyc-subway-summer-h...

Compare this to Seattle where I could wear a sweater in August and I'd say it's brutal.

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Post by zachthewf »

ahelwer wrote: post #56
autokad wrote: post #32

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> "Because Seattle's a pretty great city to live in?" I feel like thats a minority opinion. The weather is terrible, the food is terrible, service at restaurants (or pretty much service in general) is terrible. A huge portion of the city shuts down at night. Where NYC is a city that doesn't sleep, Seattle sleeps. There are drug needles in the streets, and I routinely see homeless people defecating on sidewalks. I eve…

* World-class rock climbing, mountaineering, and hiking less than an hour's drive from downtown * I moved here from Canada, the weather really isn't that bad; it's been a beautiful spring here while all my Canadian friends are still dealing with snow * Seattle has a huge number of sakura and so the city has beautiful pink cherry blossom clouds everywhere for the entire month of April * The entire environment is so in…

The uniquely differentiating thing in Seattle is the geography (as you say). If you don't care about having nearby skiing and mountaineering (and more but you get the idea), you can do better elsewhere.

Re: New Yorkers consider relocating post coronavirus

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Post by vkou »

zamfi wrote: post #13
acchow wrote: post #5

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citation please?

As of today, 10,344 confirmed deaths [0] from COVID-19, of a population of 8.4m [1] is 0.12% [2]. This is less than the original parent states, but only by 2x. [0] https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=coronav... [1] https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=nyc+pop... [2] Elementary math?

Not all the deaths are tested for COVID. Those that aren't don't make it into the stats. [1]

Overall mortality, compared to the baseline, has skyrocketed in the past few weeks. For the March 4 - April 4 time period, it was double the usual rate. [2]

[1] https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/0...

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/10/upshot/corona...

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Post by monksy »

notfromhere wrote: post #46
monksy wrote: post #33

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How long ago was this? For a smaller place (900sqft for a 2 or 3 bedroom) they're asking $3200 in logan square. Right arround the corner (western/armitage) they're asking $1800 for a studio.

If you’re in a trendy neighborhood in new construction, sure. There are plenty of neighborhoods where you can. Get $1.6/sqft Chicago rents have been increasing but nowhere near west coast or east coast prices

Those are becoming further and further way from the city. Even Pilsen is seeing costs higher than that.

Re: New Yorkers consider relocating post coronavirus

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Post by TSiege »

As a native New Yorker there's so much about this that bugs me.

One, talk is cheap.

Two, what happened in NYC was not destined to be, and it's an easy lie leaders and those who look down on New Yorkers love to spread. Lots of big dense cities have handled this crisis well, just like some rural areas have not. Epidemics have been devastating throughout human history.

Three, to the people who live here and see this as inevitable and would rather flee than work together and fix the issue and protect our communities - good riddance.

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Post by [deleted] »

_hardwaregeek wrote: post #45
autokad wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Because Seattle's a pretty great city to live in?" I feel like thats a minority opinion. The weather is terrible, the food is terrible, service at restaurants (or pretty much service in general) is terrible. A huge portion of the city shuts down at night. Where NYC is a city that doesn't sleep, Seattle sleeps. There are drug needles in the streets, and I routinely see homeless people defecating on sidewalks. I eve…

I'm a native New Yorker with all the chauvinism that comes with it, but I didn't find Seattle that bad! The weather is no worse than New York's brutal humidity in the summer. The food isn't that bad. Sure the Asian food is thoroughly mediocre compared to New York's, but that's mostly cause New York has great Asian food. The seafood is wonderful too. Service wasn't that bad either—I suspect that's very subjective. Sur…

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Re: New Yorkers consider relocating post coronavirus

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Post by nitrogen »

baggy_trough wrote: post #59
groby_b wrote: post #50

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Disagreement on #2 and #3: #2: Suburbs/exurbs are completely unsustainable. I'd predict that after this is over, local food sources will figure prominently on people's minds. We might see a return to smaller satellite cities if zoning changes to a saner mixed zoning approach. (You don't want big box stores. You do want smaller stores embedded in the local community. I'm not sure there's the political will to go there…

Saying that suburbs and exurbs are "completely unsustainable" is a massive exaggeration.

It's a meme that just won't die even when we are currently seeing the major downsides of very high population densities. I moved from SF to a suburb in another state (with a balanced budget requirement) and have 3x the space for ⅓ the price. I am still closer in commute time to the major job centers than most of my SF coworkers were.
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