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Re: Kiwi Browser - Android Chrome based browser with extensions support

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Post by solarkraft »

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #22
Thriptic wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So to be clear, the existing Firefox on Android which has broad extension support is going to be replaced with a version with less extension support? Why? One of the biggest value adds of Firefox on Android is broad extension support.

Only way to make it suck less https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2019/06/27/reinventi...

That article doesn't explain anything about it. The previous Firefox runs (almost?) all extensions impressively well, with little required optimization.

Re: Kiwi Browser - Android Chrome based browser with extensions support

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Post by csagan5 »

cercatrova wrote: post #56
csagan5 wrote: post #52

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And you trust instead a closed-source browser which has not been updated in months? Aside from the trust component I suggest you to use an up-to-date browser because of the security vulnerabilities which affect them.

What are you referring to, Firefox? If not, Kiwi is open source, and I trust Firefox a lot more than Brave.

Kiwi: it is severely outdated and you installed it before it was open source.

Re: Kiwi Browser - Android Chrome based browser with extensions support

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Post by cercatrova »

csagan5 wrote: post #62
cercatrova wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you referring to, Firefox? If not, Kiwi is open source, and I trust Firefox a lot more than Brave.

Kiwi: it is severely outdated and you installed it before it was open source.

How is it outdated when the versions on the Play Store are automatically built with the open source version, which got an update 7 hours ago? Even if I had used a previous version, my current version is up to date by now.

Re: Kiwi Browser - Android Chrome based browser with extensions support

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Post by _njyk »

cercatrova wrote: post #63
csagan5 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kiwi: it is severely outdated and you installed it before it was open source.

How is it outdated when the versions on the Play Store are automatically built with the open source version, which got an update 7 hours ago? Even if I had used a previous version, my current version is up to date by now.

He is referring to the fact that Kiwi is based on a mix of different Chromium versions of 2019. Chromium does new release almost every month. It's difficult to keep track of Chromium modifications with such large forks (and Chromium had lot of performance issue at the end of 2019 too with stuttering and lags).

UCBrowser for example is an engine of 2017, Samsung Internet from 2019, etc

Re: Kiwi Browser - Android Chrome based browser with extensions support

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Post by _njyk »

csagan5 wrote: post #62
cercatrova wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you referring to, Firefox? If not, Kiwi is open source, and I trust Firefox a lot more than Brave.

Kiwi: it is severely outdated and you installed it before it was open source.

csagan5: I give all the code of a large project, for anyone to use, with detailed and functional build instructions.

I don't ask for anything in return, and you can do basically what you want with it.

Ok, you repeat on this thread that your own browser (Bromite) is better and so on essentially spreading FUD, but for what result ?

We both have something else to do than spending time on that.

Re: Kiwi Browser - Android Chrome based browser with extensions support

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Post by thereticent »

solarkraft wrote: post #59
thereticent wrote: post #58

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If you find (or build) anything like that, I'm sure HN would love it. Personally, I'm concerned about my favorite reference manager, Qiqqa, which was open sourced when retired by the company that made it. As far as I can tell, there is 1 (maybe 2) coders maintaining and improving the software and maybe a few people catching and reporting bugs. It seems like a razor's edge, but the most active contributor is doing a g…

Would you be less concerned if they had retired it without publishing the source code?

Of course not. I'm a little confused as to how you might think that if the case. I use it daily, and I'm invested in its continued improvement. I ask because I'd like to know how projects best succeed in the kind of situation.

Re: Kiwi Browser - Android Chrome based browser with extensions support

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Post by csagan5 »

_njyk wrote: post #65
csagan5 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kiwi: it is severely outdated and you installed it before it was open source.

csagan5: I give all the code of a large project, for anyone to use, with detailed and functional build instructions. I don't ask for anything in return, and you can do basically what you want with it. Ok, you repeat on this thread that your own browser (Bromite) is better and so on essentially spreading FUD, but for what result ? We both have something else to do than spending time on that.

I did not mention Bromite at all, what are you talking about?

There is no FUD here, let me write down some facts for you:

* users install Kiwi which does not contain all the security fixes of upstream stable Chromium (v81); this is been going on for several months now

* users do the same for Bromite and the Bromite SystemWebView

I warn everyone equally about this problem, nobody should run an outdated browser because of all the security issues, look at 2019 alone here: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1224...

More facts:

* the current version of Kiwi, in Play Store and in source form, still is not up to date and covering the security issues fixed by upstream Chromium

* Kiwi was not open source until now and its repository was plain lying about it (https://web.archive.org/web/20190719191635/https://github.co...), making people think it was open source while you published only a few unusable patches

* even now there is no commit history making the source code unusable and unauditable

* you included trackers at some point in Kiwi and visits were going to some search server of yours

Did I miss anything? I am glad you decided to open source it but it does not change the above facts.

Re: Kiwi Browser - Android Chrome based browser with extensions support

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Post by csagan5 »

_njyk wrote: post #64
cercatrova wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it outdated when the versions on the Play Store are automatically built with the open source version, which got an update 7 hours ago? Even if I had used a previous version, my current version is up to date by now.

He is referring to the fact that Kiwi is based on a mix of different Chromium versions of 2019. Chromium does new release almost every month. It's difficult to keep track of Chromium modifications with such large forks (and Chromium had lot of performance issue at the end of 2019 too with stuttering and lags). UCBrowser for example is an engine of 2017, Samsung Internet from 2019, etc

You have not answered to the user's concern whether his browser is up to date with all the security fixes found in Chromium after v77.

Re: Kiwi Browser - Android Chrome based browser with extensions support

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Post by anotheryou »

solarkraft wrote: post #60
taborj wrote: post #55

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It's interesting to see the different user preferences. For example, I can't stand the address bar at the bottom. But I find folks such as yourself who can't stand it at the top. Very few browsers I've found let you choose.

Firefox Preview (why don't they brand it with the awesome code name Fenix?) does.

Because as a name it will die anyways. They just just rolled it out as Firefox Beta.

I wonder if Preview will remain at all than.

Re: Kiwi Browser - Android Chrome based browser with extensions support

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Post by hncensorsnonpc »

gnicholas wrote: post #6

I learned about this from a user of my Chrome extension who was having some issues. Most of the features actually worked out of the box, though the UI isn’t quite right. Very cool that it works this well! I understand Brave will be adding extension support this year as well.

?? Brave already has chrome extension support. I do not get why this is highlighted as something special for chromium based browsers.
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