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Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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Post by d1zzy »

malka wrote: post #36
maceurt wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be cool if anybody else could make a real competitor to youtube then Google would have to actually cater more to content creators. However, sadly I think youtube is just too far ahead and google has way to many resources and time spent in the space for any competitor to even be able to make a dent into youtube's market.

youtube is a huge moneysink. not only would it be hard to build, it would never bring money. Google has entrenched themselves in a monopoly here. I think antitrust laws should be applied.

> Google has entrenched themselves in a monopoly here. I think antitrust laws should be applied.

If it's true that it isn't profitable how would anti-trust laws make it better? If it's truly unprofitable then separating it from the mothership means it goes bankrupt so no more Youtube. That doesn't seem like a better outcome than what we have today.

So it must be profitable to even begin to consider anti-trust regulation. Personally I think it is profitable although it likely has a very long time to recuperate investments (since it's mostly infrastructure like fiber, peering, caching accelerators, etc).

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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Post by kspacewalk2 »

ashtonkem wrote: post #62

I honestly kind of hate most of Google’s products. While they are incredibly reliable, they often have inconsistent and poor UX, and are liable to either cancel or change the entire UI on a whim.

Not to mention that they spawn and kill off features and products with equal ease and frequency.

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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Post by d1zzy »

Non24Throw wrote: post #56
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #46

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If a business can't survive treating humans like humans, perhaps it shouldn't exist.

Again not speaking for Google and only speculating without any inside information on the details of this subject, but: If Google didn’t exist because only customer-paid business models were permitted for the services they provide, you would be cutting the vast majority of humanity off from essential communications and information services, and they would only be available to the wealthiest people in the wealthiest na…

This is what I try to point out every time someone tries to say that ad-based revenue models should be made illegal because of various reasons. It is ignoring how useful and accessible ad-supported web products are to pretty much anyone that isn't living in a first world country having easy access to credit cards.

As someone that has grown up in a second world country, barely having any money to pay for food in college, nobody I knew had even a debit card not to mention a credit card, I was very much grateful to have access to Google Search for "free" and the quality of the results it returned and I continued to be grateful and enjoy the products later developed (Mail, Maps, etc).

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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Post by d1zzy »

wegs wrote: post #10
quercy wrote: post #6

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Well, don't trust "Cloud Services" unless you're paying them $10k+ a month.

Nah. With Google, the attitude of ad-supported extends to B2B. You can pay them a megabuck a year, and still get steamrolled by their AI having a random bug.

Do you have an example of paying customer giving Google >=$1m a year and still get steamrolled by AI without being able to get in touch with a human and correct the issue?

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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Post by AlphaSite »

d1zzy wrote: post #61
malka wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

youtube is a huge moneysink. not only would it be hard to build, it would never bring money. Google has entrenched themselves in a monopoly here. I think antitrust laws should be applied.

> Google has entrenched themselves in a monopoly here. I think antitrust laws should be applied. If it's true that it isn't profitable how would anti-trust laws make it better? If it's truly unprofitable then separating it from the mothership means it goes bankrupt so no more Youtube. That doesn't seem like a better outcome than what we have today. So it must be profitable to even begin to consider anti-trust regulat…

Because then someone who doesn’t have Google’s money could actually compete. It wouldn’t become a huge exercise in dumping.

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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Post by michaelt »

Razengan wrote: post #41
maceurt wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be cool if anybody else could make a real competitor to youtube then Google would have to actually cater more to content creators. However, sadly I think youtube is just too far ahead and google has way to many resources and time spent in the space for any competitor to even be able to make a dent into youtube's market.

YouTube is one of the reasons I will probably always dislike Google for. They bought an existing service, made few improvements to it, made it worse in some ways, continue to ignore its major problems, and keep it artificially limited on their competitors' platforms (like not supporting the native Picture-in-Picture feature on iPad for years.) Worst of all, because they are So Big, people are preemptively disheartene…

> made very few improvements to it,

Before the acquisition Youtube were getting their ass kicked about all the copyright violation on the site, they were losing money, they had no ad revenue sharing with video creators, they only supported low-resolution video, and only in an Adobe Flash player.

All of which changed after the acquisition.

I would agree, of course, that there's plenty wrong with Youtube these days, and the pace of innovation has dropped a lot.

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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Post by throwaway2048 »

d1zzy wrote: post #59
throwaway2048 wrote: post #54

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Use Youtube without an adblocker, they have a lot more than just simple text ads. Also, bandwidth is essentially free for Google beyond capital costs due to the fact they are peered with practically every ISP on earth (traceroute Google.com).

If it was "free" then everyone could do it. The fact that very few people have the capability to provide the connectivity Google provides points to the contrary.

I never said building the connectivity was free, In fact I said the opposite.

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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Post by FridgeSeal »

zozbot234 wrote: post #47
reportingsjr wrote: post #42

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Yeaaahhhh, bitchute is definitely worse having YouTube as a monopoly. Bitchute is absolutely full of racists, conspiracy theories, and just awful people in general. I wouldn't touch it with a 2m stick.

Well, you know the drill. First they came for the racists and conspiracy theorists...

... and nobody complained, because most people don’t actually enjoy having to put up with racists.
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