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Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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Googlers don't use Zoom for company work. It was banned as in it can no longer be installed on corp laptops.

Right but it's also astonishing that was allowed before. If it's not needed for work why would it be installed? Why would any non-work software be allowed on corp laptops?

Spotify is not negotiable tbh.

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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It's surprisingly common for people not to own a non-work computer other than a phone/tablet, especially now that prevalence of desktop computers is declining. Some people do still have a home desktop, or a separate personal laptop, but a lot of people I know don't. Or they might have one but it's a shared family computer that's mostly used by the kids, while parents use their work laptops.

Not surprising at all. I'm also among them. Reasons are: 1. performant laptops are expensive. 2. If not for work, most of the time you don't need it.

Do you use your work machine for side projects? If so who owns the IP?

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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Hangouts is not that bad

hangouts isn't bad at all. Dumb product decision to only be able to see 4 people at once tho. Probably biggest reason people are on Zoom and not hangouts right now

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-meet-grid-v...

Since finding this I find hangouts meet much more tolerable!

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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Hangouts is not that bad

hangouts isn't bad at all. Dumb product decision to only be able to see 4 people at once tho. Probably biggest reason people are on Zoom and not hangouts right now

There is a Chrome plugin to solve this problem - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-meet-grid-v...

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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I interviewed at Google a while back for an SRE position working with the Hangouts team. My first interview was in another office and the audio in Hangouts session would not start. We ending up having to move on to the next interview. I'm not surprised even Google employees don't use it.

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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God please don't make me use a non-zoom video conferencing tool! I have used about a dozen over the years in my role as a consultant, and Zoom has been by far the most reliable. I’m hopeful lots of good can come from the scrutiny, but please Zoom get your act together so I don’t have to use some other buggy thing that doesn’t actually work.

Use Jitsi

Jitsi is the worst in my experience, particularly with many people (ie more than two or three).

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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Zoom has a not very well published chrome app (intended for chromebook users). You can install it in normal chrome and it gives you a much better experience than the web version without all the issues of the desktop app.

I trust zoom a lot more when it is running inside a chrome sandbox than as a native app.

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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Is there any technical merit to this ban? Why would forcing use of web version mitigate any concerns? (The concerns I have heard are lack of proper end-to-end encryption, servers in China and the possibility to join chatrooms by guessing a name (zoom-bombing)).

Seems perfectly sensible to ban all software that is not pre-approved by IT, InfoSec and Legal.

You can't safely assume all your employees are properly assessing the risks unless that is their actual job. If you only allow what you know then you can reason about your risk.

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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Corporate devices should be for work. Especially if you're sheltering-in-place anyway and you're not even physically at the office.

> Corporate devices should be for work. Many (most?) companies are perfectly fine with you using your corporate machine for typical home-life stuff and side projects as well. Reduces waste of having to buy two devices. Seems nothing wrong with it to me?

They also tend to claim ownership to IP created on their assets.
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