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Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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Tried to make an app. That requires yarn. Yarn stopped because I have Node.js version 12 and version 10 is expected!!! Are they serious?

Haha! Didn't expect that. v1.0 software that has a very straight forward bug. I'm curious if they did any tiny bit correct.

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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I was confused why the screenshot on the homepage ( https://theia-ide.org/ ) looked so outrageously similar to VSCode, so I checked the source. It looks like the editor widget is Monaco (from VSCode) so the text editing experience is entirely based on VSCode and Theia provides an alternative for the surrounding IDE stuff. Then they added a theme that imitates VSCode as much as possible to create the screenshot on the…

The page admits that they think VS Code is great, so reused lots of its design and open source code it was based on. They also use the LSP, meaning many extensions should be easy to port.

This is basically a direct adoption of VS Code in the Eclipse context. I don’t see anything wrong here, they aren’t hiding their intentions and a lot of of them criticism here just seem to be projections of things they aren’t claiming.

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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post #59

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Yeah, I don't see the point of this, either. If you're looking for an alternative to Visual Studio Code, isn't that what VS Codium is for?

Why switch from VS Code to Codium? That makes even less sense than a switch to Eclipse. If you're on VS Code, just use VS Code. If you're on Eclipse, just use Eclipse. But yeah, get to market. Quibbling over quasi-religious beliefs, like X is better than Y, is exactly what allows some kid on his couch in his boxers watching SportsCenter while working on his website to beat your funded startup to market.

Why switch from VS Code to Codium?

For me, it was because I don't want to be spied on by Microsoft. VS Codium is VS Code without the telemetry and tracking.

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I don't see the point of this, either. If you're looking for an alternative to Visual Studio Code, isn't that what VS Codium is for?

Why switch from VS Code to Codium? That makes even less sense than a switch to Eclipse. If you're on VS Code, just use VS Code. If you're on Eclipse, just use Eclipse. But yeah, get to market. Quibbling over quasi-religious beliefs, like X is better than Y, is exactly what allows some kid on his couch in his boxers watching SportsCenter while working on his website to beat your funded startup to market.

Erm, how does it make less sense? Codium is literally more vscode than VS Code itself. So if you're on VS Code, just use Codium.

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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post #5

If this is intended to be a VSCode alternative, where are the download area? Why the strong emphasis on cloud? A version 1.0 with no package released? need top run it on docker? I don't want to sound negative, I would really want to download it an try it... but from what I see in a quick glance, they want me to setup a whole cloud to use this, not how I envision an editor that is trying to take on the most popular ed…

https://github.com/theia-ide/theia-apps#theia-desktop

TBD :)

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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post #44

Since no one else has brought this up, I think one of the big drivers behind this project is actually another eclipse project (che): https://www.eclipse.org/che/technology/ Che is a cloud ide that is supposed to be easily deployed into a k8s cluster. Che supports authentication and spinning up pods for projects, and other management features. Theia may have been developed to work nicely with Che directly (I am not a…

I'm always surprised how little CHE gets talked about. Is there an alternative that has better traction? I tried it a few years ago and conceptually it was really ahead of its time in terms of spinning up a dev environment on the fly. Unfortunately the latest version, now based on k8s, was much more finicky to get setup in a home lab.
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