HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr Steps Down • Hacker News Board

Re: HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr Steps Down

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Post by dekz » Tue, Mar 01, 2011, 6:30 AM UTC

georgieporgie wrote: post #50

m_myers wrote: post #45

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Have you seen their TV and magazine ads? Their ads are the only reason I do not use them.

I've been using GoDaddy for quite some time now. Their user interface is atrocious, and much of their business model seems to be "let's hope they don't notice extra services we conveniently added." I put up with it for years, though, because of low prices. Lately, though, I'm bothered in a different way. It seems like they want to create an image of celebrating empowered women. Their execution, however, revolves arou…

Don't you just love the daily email about their sales?

Re: HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr Steps Down

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Post by bvi » Tue, Mar 01, 2011, 6:50 AM UTC

stcredzero wrote: post #33

wmf wrote: post #17

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Maybe it's a common enough name that he can just say "no, I'm the other Aaron Barr".

Change the last a to u.

Or replace the "a" with an "i": Ironn Barr. It will be a unique enough name that anyone's first impression will be "That's a pretty kickass name" as opposed to "You the HBGary guy?".

Re: HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr Steps Down

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 01, 2011, 6:57 AM UTC

stcredzero wrote: post #58

khafra wrote: post #52

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By "Discordian," I'm thinking you mean the TAZ-theory and other stuff from RAW's other work, not so much the carefree pranksterism of the Principia Discordia, right? Either way, it's a model for which I hold such a low prior probability that it would take a lot of evidence to convince me, but the latter seems to have more internal consistency. As for your link, people thought you were talking about the overreaching o…

If I was talking about the estate, why would I be mentioning Evangelion?

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Re: HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr Steps Down

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Post by Natsu » Tue, Mar 01, 2011, 8:18 AM UTC

drinian wrote: post #39

Nate75Sanders wrote: post #26

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We need websites that track _individuals_ for their reputation instead of just businesses. I recently had a moving company move my car across the country. I picked the #1 rated broker in the United States the last 2 years running. They're just the broker, though. They pick an actual trucking company to move your car. I found out that the individuals involved in the company moving my car had opened 3 other companies i…

Are you familiar with Whuffie, which was a fictional reputational currency? I'm pretty sure that with the advent of decentralized currencies like BitCoin, we could probably implement Whuffie now. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Whuffie

Haven't we already done something like that, in a sense, with HN karma?

Re: HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr Steps Down

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Post by bodyfour » Tue, Mar 01, 2011, 8:21 AM UTC

georgieporgie wrote: post #50

m_myers wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you seen their TV and magazine ads? Their ads are the only reason I do not use them.

I've been using GoDaddy for quite some time now. Their user interface is atrocious, and much of their business model seems to be "let's hope they don't notice extra services we conveniently added." I put up with it for years, though, because of low prices. Lately, though, I'm bothered in a different way. It seems like they want to create an image of celebrating empowered women. Their execution, however, revolves arou…

I reluctantly switched to GoDaddy because none of the TUCOWS-based registrars could handle IPv6 glue records, and I wanted to get my external nameservers running dual-stack. GoDaddy was surprisingly ahead of the curve on IPv6 support.

Their marketing is truly cringe-worthy though. I only keep the registration of that single domain there, and I will probably move it elsewhere when it expires in a couple years.

Re: HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr Steps Down

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Post by jrockway » Tue, Mar 01, 2011, 8:31 AM UTC

motters wrote: post #22

The internet amplifies reputational risk. My guess is that if HBGary has any future they will at the very minimum have to change their company name. Reading some of the leaked emails provides (at least for me) a shocking insight into the dark side of the internet and how social networks can be abused for sinister purposes. Assuming HBGary isn't the only company involved in these sorts of machinations it raises some r…

Their "personas" didn't do a very good job.

Re: HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr Steps Down

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Post by joel_ms » Tue, Mar 01, 2011, 8:49 AM UTC

stcredzero wrote: post #58

khafra wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By "Discordian," I'm thinking you mean the TAZ-theory and other stuff from RAW's other work, not so much the carefree pranksterism of the Principia Discordia, right? Either way, it's a model for which I hold such a low prior probability that it would take a lot of evidence to convince me, but the latter seems to have more internal consistency. As for your link, people thought you were talking about the overreaching o…

If I was talking about the estate, why would I be mentioning Evangelion?

You did start the comment with "My reaction is: so?", a statement seemingly directed at the actual content of the article, not the (largely irrelevant in the context of the article) content of the button.

People got confused by your somewhat unclear (at least to some people), off-topic comment, and you started ranting about people not using their brains, lacking reading comprehension, being lazy and small-minded.

Wouldn't it suffice to point out that you were commenting on the content of the button, without attacking the people confused by the comment?

Re: HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr Steps Down

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Post by motters » Tue, Mar 01, 2011, 11:43 AM UTC

stcredzero wrote: post #31

motters wrote: post #22

The internet amplifies reputational risk. My guess is that if HBGary has any future they will at the very minimum have to change their company name. Reading some of the leaked emails provides (at least for me) a shocking insight into the dark side of the internet and how social networks can be abused for sinister purposes. Assuming HBGary isn't the only company involved in these sorts of machinations it raises some r…

My hunch is that this very social network and its close cousin reddit are being manipulated by groups following discordian ideologies. In short, it's being manipulated for fun and "profit." ("Profit" in the form of media-manipulation capability.) In other words, it's being manipulated for the LULZ. (By people who don't know how to analyze what they read and argue cogently.) The flavor of logic and discourse on this s…

I don't know anything about LULZ, but given the content of the HBGary emails it's entirely possible that "personas" are deployed on this and other noteworthy forums, in accordance with their rent-a-bot business model. However, at least on HN it would be difficult for these to be "botted out", due to the usually higher quality commenting, although voting up "noisy" submissions could degrade the overall quality.

Re: HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr Steps Down

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Post by nickolai » Tue, Mar 01, 2011, 1:53 PM UTC

Nate75Sanders wrote: post #26

bane wrote: post #2

At this point they're going to just have to change the name of the company.

We need websites that track _individuals_ for their reputation instead of just businesses. I recently had a moving company move my car across the country. I picked the #1 rated broker in the United States the last 2 years running. They're just the broker, though. They pick an actual trucking company to move your car. I found out that the individuals involved in the company moving my car had opened 3 other companies i…

Something like this -> http://xkcd.com/796/ ?

Re: HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr Steps Down

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Post by stcredzero » Tue, Mar 01, 2011, 2:20 PM UTC

bvi wrote: post #62

stcredzero wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Change the last a to u.

Or replace the "a" with an "i": Ironn Barr. It will be a unique enough name that anyone's first impression will be "That's a pretty kickass name" as opposed to "You the HBGary guy?".

The idea that launched a thousand cheesy pickup lines.