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Mystery in Wuhan: recovered coronavirus patients test negative then positive

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Re: Mystery in Wuhan: recovered coronavirus patients test negative then positive

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Post by systemvoltage »

_ea1k wrote: post #50
gentleman11 wrote: post #23

> They all requested anonymity when speaking with NPR because those who have challenged the government's handling of the outbreak have been detained. We need to be more hesitant to praise their pandemic response

I don't understand this. I haven't seen "praise"? I have seen realistic assessments of the ultimate effectiveness, but I see this as vastly different from "praise". I think the majority of people in the US that have observed how they handle it see their approach as overly harsh.

IMO I've seen praise in literally every news article and very few criticisms and skeptics.

Re: Mystery in Wuhan: recovered coronavirus patients test negative then positive

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Post by W4ldi »

bewaretheirs wrote: post #45
baxtr wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In general PCR tests are highly sensitive. Even smallest viral loads can be detected (Edit) added in general above due to valid points in the comments below

They're highly sensitive to the presence of the target DNA or RNA sequence in the sample well. But they can't easily tell if the target sequence they amplified came from the patient's sample or from other potential sources of contamination in the lab (the test, after all, makes billions of copies of the target DNA sequence), whether from other positive tests or from positive controls.

But that doesn't explain false negatives, does it?

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Post by rumanator »

_ea1k wrote: post #50
gentleman11 wrote: post #23

> They all requested anonymity when speaking with NPR because those who have challenged the government's handling of the outbreak have been detained. We need to be more hesitant to praise their pandemic response

I don't understand this. I haven't seen "praise"? I have seen realistic assessments of the ultimate effectiveness, but I see this as vastly different from "praise". I think the majority of people in the US that have observed how they handle it see their approach as overly harsh.

> I have seen realistic assessments of the ultimate effectiveness

I'm afraid we only see the chinese government's report and data on how the epidemic is spreading within China.

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Post by [deleted] »

_ea1k wrote: post #50
gentleman11 wrote: post #23

> They all requested anonymity when speaking with NPR because those who have challenged the government's handling of the outbreak have been detained. We need to be more hesitant to praise their pandemic response

I don't understand this. I haven't seen "praise"? I have seen realistic assessments of the ultimate effectiveness, but I see this as vastly different from "praise". I think the majority of people in the US that have observed how they handle it see their approach as overly harsh.

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smallnamespace wrote: post #52
lone_post wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Communist Party enjoys the luxury of dissent being a punishable offense. The media, the citizenry, the private sector are all held hostage by the absolute authority of the Party. I'm not sure why, but the media seems so eager to accept the official CCP narrative and take the lack of clear dissent from within China to mean China should be held up as a model Nation worthy of praise while simultaneously ignoring all…

> Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That destroys the curiosity this site exists for. > Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents.

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Post by grezql »

_ea1k wrote: post #50
gentleman11 wrote: post #23

> They all requested anonymity when speaking with NPR because those who have challenged the government's handling of the outbreak have been detained. We need to be more hesitant to praise their pandemic response

I don't understand this. I haven't seen "praise"? I have seen realistic assessments of the ultimate effectiveness, but I see this as vastly different from "praise". I think the majority of people in the US that have observed how they handle it see their approach as overly harsh.

its not the direct praise. its more like newspapers compare x-country to Chinas "80 000" infections and few thousands death. its false basis. there could 500 000 deaths for all we know in china. They wont tell the truth and should therefore be rejected from any statistics

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Post by snapetom »

_ea1k wrote: post #50
gentleman11 wrote: post #23

> They all requested anonymity when speaking with NPR because those who have challenged the government's handling of the outbreak have been detained. We need to be more hesitant to praise their pandemic response

I don't understand this. I haven't seen "praise"? I have seen realistic assessments of the ultimate effectiveness, but I see this as vastly different from "praise". I think the majority of people in the US that have observed how they handle it see their approach as overly harsh.

While social media has been more critical depending on the source, the mainstream media has definitely been carrying the water for China.

https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/124324375891486310...

I think it's been interesting wave. When the cases first started, China got blasted. As it hit the US, Administration political opponents have criticized the US response, but many have gone to the point of praising China's response and forgetting about China's actions in December/January.

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