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Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies from Coronavirus

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Ah it's like HIV and AIDS, isn't it? SARS-CoV-2 causes COVID-19, and COVID-19 is not the virus but the disease. She's right.

Easy mnemonic: COVID-19 stands for COrona VIrus Disease 2019.

No kidding? I've been remembering it as COrona Virus Infectious Disease 2019. I haven't seen a source on this though- just made sense since CoV was established early in the timeline as corona virus.

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Some quick googling also shows that young people without pre-existing conditions can die from the regular flu. https://time.com/5099042/influenza-deaths-flu/

But I don’t think people have been hammered with the view that flu can only kill older people. Whereas they have been for covid-19.

People haven't been hammered with it because it's background cultural knowledge that's never really questioned. I've never met anyone below the age of 60 who acted even a tiny bit scared of the flu, except for a few people who've personally had a severe case before and parents with very young children.

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Biased as an immunologist, but this sounds like HLA type differences. The cells chop the virus proteins and stick them out using MHC1 to notify the immune system. This response is partly determined by genetics (HLA TYPE) and if we cluster outcomes vs HLA types we could learn a model to predict who’s gonna have worse outcomes. Could help with triage if it were a decision tree model

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Anecdotally, my parents keep bringing up this narrative every time we talk on the phone. I've reminded them that while me and my fiance dutifully haven't left the house since last Sunday they've happily gone to the grocery store multiple times, attended a funeral, and had wine at their neighbor's house. They also refused to stop babysitting my niece and nephew until I called my brother and convinced him to stop dropp…

As a parent of a young man. I understand why your parents have these fears. They know what they are doing, but they don´t know what you are doing other than what you tell them. Even if they trust you, this is a deeper fear. You could start lecturing your parents about how dangerous this is, so they are convinced that you are taking it seriously.

As the parent of adult children currently living at home... one of ours keeps going out to be with friends. I understand she needs to get out of the house sometimes, but it's unnerving, knowing the points of contact (she often goes to her boyfriend's house, with his five currently-unemployed roommates).

Then again, she works in a children's health clinic. I know what vector is probably going to bring COVID into our house.

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I'm puzzled by the intense focus on whether someone who dies had a pre-existing condition. It's like people want to convict the person for their own death, make it look like they were irresponsible, as a denial mechanism. By blaming the person for succumbing to the virus they can fall in to the US-centric mindset of blaming people for their own disfortune, poverty, illness, accident, lack of whiteness, etc. It's real…

Reminds me of the questions people make here in mexico when someone gets murdered: was he in drugs? Was he in as bad place? Surely he was onto something? Was he showing off? Human brains have to justify things to try to disassociate the bad events with their reality. It is difficult to accept that calamity is very close to them.

Also it’s the standard script gossipy low class people resort to right away. I don’t want to absolve too much of humanity’s standard operating procedure.

Re: Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies from Coronavirus

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah it's like HIV and AIDS, isn't it? SARS-CoV-2 causes COVID-19, and COVID-19 is not the virus but the disease. She's right.

Easy mnemonic: COVID-19 stands for COrona VIrus Disease 2019.

Yes, it's very easy to remember that the disease is named by the virus, and the virus is named by the disease :)

I still wonder who got that brilliant idea.

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It seems that anecdotal evidence of young people dying of COVID-19 is the trend of the moment. Not sure if it's just cheap clickbait or the goal is to make younger generations to actually care about social distancing. The deal is that we are dealing with the power of large numbers. You can cherry-pick whatever case you want to fit your narrative. It does not mean its relevant information.

It is relevant information when the previous narrative was that 0 young people had died of COVID, and that the “only” old people who had died had co-morbidity factors. BTW, this isn’t “anecdotal evidence”. This is an actual, verifiable data point.

Maybe doctor's and research scientists should present this as a data point instead of instead of yorkshirecoastradio relaying some facebook posts.

While this narrative may fit what is perceived as a good cause, do we want it at the expense of truth? Do we want every story to first be questioned, "what are they trying to get us to do by telling us this?"

Re: Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies from Coronavirus

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It's easy to find an article like this very frightening, if you're young and healthy and have been thinking there's thus no chance you'll die of COVID-19 if (more likely when, tbh) you get it. I already have it, so I totally understand that. But this is the first time we know of that anyone young and healthy has died of the disease, and we're over a hundred thousand confirmed cases in. Even assuming the current under…

While we're here because it mentions a younger death, it is way less about your (or my) chances and more about where we will spread it. At this point, I have seen it first hand, a spring breaker coming back, carrying it for a few days, and interacting with many people in office settings.

Just because the virus doesn't kill doesn't mean you aren't being used.

Re: Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies from Coronavirus

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It seems that anecdotal evidence of young people dying of COVID-19 is the trend of the moment. Not sure if it's just cheap clickbait or the goal is to make younger generations to actually care about social distancing. The deal is that we are dealing with the power of large numbers. You can cherry-pick whatever case you want to fit your narrative. It does not mean its relevant information.

On the other hand; the fact that such (very rare) cases exist is also revealing that there we are talking about actual large numbers.
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